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Old 11-07-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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He could have done quite well as an actor if he wanted to. But when he became a Christian he backed off of his acting career. To make that suggestion simply isn't logical. If all he wanted was money he'd be acting.

Little Mikey Seaver was as good as the ensemble cast surrounding him. He is not a good actor. I sat through Fireproof. Torture I tell you, torture

No King Lear, or Hamlet in him and it has nothing to do with his faith.
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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So what makes something right and wrong? Are you able to say? Is it just assumed that some things are right? Some are wrong?
In the case of cheating on your spouse, how about asking yourself if the action you are considering will harm anyone, and are you taking into account the best interest of everyone who will be impacted by that course of action? I think that's pretty generally accepted criteria.
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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He could have done quite well as an actor if he wanted to. But when he became a Christian he backed off of his acting career. To make that suggestion simply isn't logical. If all he wanted was money he'd be acting.
He could make oodles of money producing and directing successful movies. Unfortunately for him..... he makes terrible movies.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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In the case of cheating on your spouse, how about asking yourself if the action you are considering will harm anyone, and are you taking into account the best interest of everyone who will be impacted by that course of action? I think that's pretty generally accepted criteria.
I've repeatedly asked this question and have never had anyone tell me: Why is the question of harm the deciding factor to determine right and wrong? Did you get that from some cosmic rulebook or something?
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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I've repeatedly asked this question and have never had anyone tell me: Why is the question of harm the deciding factor to determine right and wrong? Did you get that from some cosmic rulebook or something?
The "cosmic rule" is LOVE, Vizio (or, in Christian-ese, the spirit of God). Do you need a book to tell you to love and have concern for the best interest of your partner, your children, the person you want to have an affair with, their spouse, their children?

Honestly, it's a bit odd that you are even asking the question. Many people, Christian and non-Christian, take the well-being of others as well as self into account when deciding whether an action they wish to take is "right or wrong". If you don't, why?
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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The "cosmic rule" is LOVE, Vizio (or, in Christian-ese, the spirit of God).

How do you know that?

I happen to agree with you that we should love others. Of course we should. But I want to know how YOU know that we should.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:42 AM
 
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How do you know that?
Because I have been loved, am loved, and do love. You?
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:42 AM
 
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How do you know that?

I happen to agree with you that we should love others. Of course we should. But I want to know how YOU know that we should.
It's called "empathy," Viz.

If you don't feel it, at least look it up so you'll know on some level what others experience.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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How do you know that?

I happen to agree with you that we should love others. Of course we should. But I want to know how YOU know that we should.

The same way you, and Dr Ben Carson know you would be out of control without biblical direction.

You need the bible, and others manage successful lives without it. Being good is obviously not innate in everyone.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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The same way you, and Dr Ben Carson know you would be out of control without biblical direction.

You need the bible, and others manage successful lives without it. Being good is obviously not innate in everyone.
You really haven't answered the question, either. What makes something "good", or "moral"? How is that determined? What source do you appeal to? Do you understand what I'm asking?
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