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Old 01-01-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It is not a case of "must choose. Rather a case of what is the or has the most influence.

If I sit around and just remember the birth of my daughter, I will not remember her life and all that it was and the opportunities she created. Likewise, if she were to die and all I did was mourn and focus on the death, I again overlook the significance of her life.

We ALL are BORN and we ALL will die, but each of us will live life differently and rarely, if ever will some one's birth influence us or will we look back and say I WAS GREATLY INFLUENCED by their birth / death.

We are always going to be influenced and motivated by how they lived their life..
Best post on the thread without exception. Too soon to rep but

The significance of Christmas is that it happened. The significance of Christ's death is that it happened.
The significance of Christ's life---is only to be found in us. If it makes no difference in how we live our lives and treat those around us then such gospel is indeed foolishness.

While many believe it is "faith" that makes us His children, it is quite clear from the many parables that Jesus was in the DOING that should follow faith. Faith without works is the man who builds his house (religious life) on sand. Faith without works is like the parable of the workers brought in at different times to pick the harvest of the Master. All were called to work--none who were called did not work. The reward for work was the same.

Faith WITH works is like the dishonest steward who, upon learning he would be dismissed from his stewardship called in those owing his master oil or wheat and reduced their bill in order to receive something. The Master called him "shrewd," and Jesus asked in conclusion "if you have not been faithful in that which is another's, who will give you that which is your own?"

Ambrose, a 4th century bishop said: The bosoms of the poor, the houses of widows, the mouths of children are the barns which last forever. True wealth consists not in what we keep but in what we give away.

Now I leave. I must be about my Father's business--not faith in that business, but the work of charity and love that it requires to be noticed by others (even as Jesus scolded the Pharisees to believe Him because of His works). Our lamp must be set on a hill, not hidden in the recesses of our hearts.
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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No,

The noun is a principality that defines it as life giving force AKA "a spirit"

This is why Paul said……….


Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.


Sin lives in the spirit of man (Adam in us) that is an unclean spirit because of it. Paul called it the law of sin that lived in him in Ro.7:23 where the word "law is used like the law of gravity meaning it is always present in all humans including Christians who are still stuck with Eve (the unclean soul of man)

However there is no sin in the Holy Spirit of God available through Christ "the seed" that is their first step in taking part of the resurrection of Jesus IN THEM !!!!

Whether that seed remains a seed or matures into the Tree of Life with the mind of Christ depends on God and the Christian's submission to Him

Sounds a LOT like Bill Clinton's explanation of "sex." The term becomes whatever one is willing to accept is meaning.

HUH? We are talking about "sin" right??? When would one argue that sin is NOT "bad?" Can an argument be made that "sin" is acceptable and good?
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Sounds a LOT like Bill Clinton's explanation of "sex." The term becomes whatever one is willing to accept is meaning.

HUH? We are talking about "sin" right??? When would one argue that sin is NOT "bad?" Can an argument be made that "sin" is acceptable and good?
Evil became sin in man

All of mankind come with the "knowledge" (means to be one with) of good and evil

This is why despite the best efforts by many persons from all walks of life, evil cannot be removed from the earth

On the other hand

Becoming a Christian is supposed to mean "Christ within" (who cannot sin) but it is not a one time event. It is a planting of a seed that first needs to germinated and then fed the truth before it can become a fruit bearing tree in the image of the Tree of Life it came from Who cannot sin

Something that cannot come to be on love alone nor through the teachings found in 99% of todays church. Even when the truth is gained the enemy is alway at the gate trying to get in and will if given the chance

Proof of the truth and hearts right before God is always given evidence through blessings from God that include signs and wonders (miracles)

How many "men and woman of God" have their ministry blessed by real miracles today? Very very few

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Old 01-01-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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Miracles comes from within, as the body heals itself.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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Evil became sin in man

All of mankind come with the "knowledge" (means to be one with) of good and evil

This is why despite the best efforts by many persons from all walks of life, evil cannot be removed from the earth

On the other hand

Becoming a Christian is supposed to mean "Christ within" (who cannot sin) but it is not a one time event. It is a planting of a seed that first needs to germinated and then fed the truth before it can become a fruit bearing tree in the image of the Tree of Life it came from Who cannot sin

Something that cannot come to be on love alone nor through the teachings found in 99% of todays church. Even when the truth is gained the enemy is alway at the gate trying to get in and will if given the chance

Proof of the truth and hearts right before God is always given evidence through blessings from God that include signs and wonders (miracles)

How many "men and woman of God" have their ministry blessed by real miracles today? Very very few
And what has LOVE become in man?

LOVE (metaphorically like the LIGHT parable) over comes EVIL?
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Old 01-02-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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All that love you talk about is good but it does not give a new life to someone who has lived their life in sin
This has got to be the saddest comment of 2015 on this forum.

God IS love. But you don't believe God/love gives new life.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Celebrate his birth beyond Christmas..... But, Christians cant afford to buy gifts daily and keep the huge tree in their living room all through the year, while having lights and decorations outside their house running up their energy bills to remember the birth of Christ.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Any type of love for another is good with agape being far beyond the rest but how many have agape as Jesus did who forgave those who unjustly beat and crucified Him?

Point being anything short of that is not agape and one does not have to believe in Christ to love their neighbor as themselves. For that matter there are plenty of followers of other religions as well as atheists who love their neighbors and are just as charitable as Christians are and often much more

Most persons who push love 24/7 do not understand why God created evil and how evil can be used to bring forth good results.

Love is good but there is much more to overcoming the world than what love alone can accomplish. For that matter God said it was the lack of knowledge and not the lack of love that would cause His people to suffer destruction and for Him to deny them the fulness of their eternal inheritance.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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This has got to be the saddest comment of 2015 on this forum.

God IS love. But you don't believe God/love gives new life.

This statement reflects just how empty of the truth and ignorant you are concerning the things of God. You are a perfect example of why God said His people would be destroyed for lack of knowledge

A new Spirit from God is the only source for a new life will pave the way for a person who has lived a life of sin under the directions of their former father and king the devil to turn away from him, become holy and live their lives unto God.

Love does not get someone the Holy Spirit but knowledge and obedience will

You really are clueless
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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This statement reflects just how empty of the truth and ignorant you are concerning the things of God. You are a perfect example of why God said His people would be destroyed for lack of knowledge

A new Spirit from God is the only source for a new life will pave the way for a person who has lived a life of sin under the directions of their former father and king the devil to turn away from him, become holy and live their lives unto God.

Love does not get someone the Holy Spirit but knowledge and obedience will

You really are clueless
God. IS. love.
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