"Hateful" Beliefs of the Church (eternity, moral, Christians)
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From what I can see, many brands of Christianity are based entirely on hate....mainly, hate of the self, a feeling of unworthiness that requires ecclesiastical and divine intervention.
Interesting list of Christian Hatred right here. From a former Baptist Preacher. Amen !
According to this list, some evangelicals even preach against self-esteem. Which could help explain the absence of it in many fundy circles. But from my observation, it is not limited just to independent Baptists or Evangelical/Fundies all together.....the Christian dogma is based on self-worthlessness, which leads to self loathing. Without this, the philosophy would have nothing to keep people from coming back again and again.
Your deafening silence, DRob, indicates that your answer is, no, you either cannot or do not want to understand.
Look, I know it's very important to some of you to think that those who do not bow to your beliefs about God are in rebellion against God, that we HATE God.
A simple answer will suffice ... do you understand that we do not equate your beliefs about God to God and therefore, we are not "putting hate on God" because we do not believe that God created those hateful beliefs, people did?
You are making way to much of this.
Simply put... my question is about which is worse... the behavior of Christians, or the doctrine itself.
If you want to change the doctrine and the events, I am not dealing with it. Someone responded with the flood for a reason - because it is an event which is part of the doctrine.
Are you unable to answer the question? Are you afraid to answer the question? What prevents you from a simple acknowledgment that people seeing some of your beliefs as hateful, does not equate to people "putting hate on God", as you said?
Are you unable to answer the question? Are you afraid to answer the question? What prevents you from a simple acknowledgment that people seeing some of your beliefs as hateful, does not equate to people "putting hate on God", as you said?
Seems like if I don't reply one way or the other, you choke on the response.
I have explained myself already... instances such as the flood are part of general Christianity and is not something I made up. The flood is something God chose to bring forth. My faith had nothing to do with it. The fact that I believe it took place AND the fact that you do not believe it took place - has nothing to do with its place in general Christian doctrine.
I will return you to your regularly scheduled programming of deafening silence. Enjoy.
Seems like if I don't reply one way or the other, you choke on the response.
I have explained myself already... instances such as the flood are part of general Christianity and is not something I made up. The flood is something God chose to bring forth. My faith had nothing to do with it. The fact that I believe it took place AND the fact that you do not believe it took place - has nothing to do with its place in general Christian doctrine.
I will return you to your regularly scheduled programming of deafening silence. Enjoy.
Evangelical Christian: If you don't believe that Jesus is your savior, God will condemn you to an eternity of torment, with no hope of escape.
Thinking Person: That's a hateful belief about God, and I do not believe God is hateful.
Evangelical Christian: You believe God is hateful!!
From what I can see, many brands of Christianity are based entirely on hate....mainly, hate of the self, a feeling of unworthiness that requires ecclesiastical and divine intervention.
Interesting list of Christian Hatred right here. From a former Baptist Preacher. Amen !
According to this list, some evangelicals even preach against self-esteem. Which could help explain the absence of it in many fundy circles. But from my observation, it is not limited just to independent Baptists or Evangelical/Fundies all together.....the Christian dogma is based on self-worthlessness, which leads to self loathing. Without this, the philosophy would have nothing to keep people from coming back again and again.
Based on my experience in fundamentalist Christianity, you are exactly correct.
It's essentially "creating a problem and then offering the exclusive solution."
Teach people that life is worthless without eternity. Teach people that they are worthless and unworthy without "salvation" from God. Then you own them for life. If you can teach children these things, when they are too young to defend themselves, even better.
And not only is this stuff legal, it's constitutionally protected.
Evangelical Christian: If you don't believe that Jesus is your savior, God will condemn you to an eternity of torment, with no hope of escape.
Thinking Person: That's a hateful belief about God, and I do not believe God is hateful.
Evangelical Christian: You believe God is hateful!!
That's it in a nutshell, reject my beliefs you reject God.
Jesus Christ is the savior from the hateful belief of salvation from eternal hell. Not one fundie will dispute this(salvation from eternal hell) and the reason they do not believe they are saved from a life to of missing the mark rather than eternal hell is that they are so sin conscious it simply is to hard to believe it, not realizing it's being sin conscious rather than God conscious that is the cause of their failure.
I guess it is fair to say it's the word of God they can't stand, and by association they dislike anyone who believes it.
The "you are hateful" line is just an old liberal 'attack-the-messenger' trick.
Like the "God said it" justification by fundamentalists who wish to denigrate some people in hopes that their own bigotry is overlooked?
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