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I propose we return (as we are beginning to do) to worshipping as 1st century Christians did---in the homes of people with unpaid leaders who make their living as tent makers or such. We'd be a lot closer to understanding the Bible rightly, and we would remove the stain of lust for power that dominates so much of American Christianity. It could rightly be called Christianity by all rather than identified as Churchianity by some of us.
I agree, Warden. The closest to that would be the Amish.
No paid clergy. They meet in one another's homes. Bible readings and sermons are rotated. Lust for power, or putting yourself above other Amish, is considered prideful and thus sinful.
Then perhaps you and others ought to realize that what one nut job states is not indicative of the beliefs of all.
I did not say any of that Viz. At no time have I claimed those connections.
Perhaps it is time you stop speaking for me. I know it is difficult, because you believe women should submit and all. No worries, though. I am here to correct you.
People express hate every.single.day without coming right out and saying, "I hate....... fill in the blank."
Ms. Davis included.
Oh. I see. You are somehow able to know what is in a person's heart without them actually saying it. Because you have determined that their behavior automatically means that. gotcha.
that's kind of why I said it's arrogant to state that someone with a well thought-out, cogent argument for something is simply a hater in your book, if their opinion disagrees with your own.
Goodness knows what Kim Davis heard in church that made her be hateful towards gay citizens applying for a marriage license. "On God's authority!!" The hate was oozing from her pores when she came out with that gem.
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I've never heard Kim Davis state that she hated gay people. Can you provide a quote of such?
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I've never stated she did.
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You stated she was hateful toward gay people, yet you now say she has never made such a statement. Good grief.
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People express hate every.single.day without coming right out and saying, "I hate....... fill in the blank."
I would say the primary thing is the obsession with homosexuality and the negative emotions many Christians bring to the debate. Many Christians have a deep hatred towards homosexuals, much of it stemming from disgust. I can understand opposition to gay marriage if coming at it from a religious angle, but why do Christians oppose the following?
-Anti-bullying programs/suicide prevention
-Employment and housing protections for LGBT people
-LGBT adoption
-LGBT people being allowed to serve in the military
-Businesses that support LGBT rights i.e. Home Depot, Starbucks, ESPN
-Protections for LGBT people in the marketplace
-Regulations on reparative therapy that has proven to be harmful
This is why I think the fundamentalist/anti-gay Christians are opposed to anything on your list. Because they believe that if life is easy on gay Americans, their own children will see "living a gay lifestyle" as a ok and then "choose" to "live a gay lifestyle".
And they they just think gay men are icky and gross and have cooties and will molest their babies and spread disease because they're all satanic sickos.
This is why I think the fundamentalist/anti-gay Christians are opposed to anything on your list. Because they believe that if life is easy on gay Americans, their own children will see "living a gay lifestyle" as a ok and then "choose" to "live a gay lifestyle".
And they they just think gay men are icky and gross and have cooties and will molest their babies and spread disease because they're all satanic sickos.
And those are the fundie intellectuals.
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No worries, though. I am here to correct you.
