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Jimmie, why does it matter? God knows and we have nothing to do with it. That is where you and the fundies get off the rails. YOU have nothing to do with knowing or deciding what God thinks about homosexuality or anything else. You are NOT God and ONLY God needs to know. If you always have agape love in your heart for everyone, you cannot offend God no matter what you do. When you love you do not DO the things that hurt or harm others. In your misguided beliefs, you ARE hurting and harming others in the belief that YOU are gaining points with God by disapproving of what you THINK He disapproves of. You are NOT gaining any points. The hurt or harm you inflict on others in support of your misguided beliefs is the OPPOSITE of what God wants. Your Soul (Spirit) is damaged by everyone you hurt or harm and you will reap what you sow. That is why we try so hard to correct your understanding of God who IS agape love, Jimmie.
Can't rep you again but good post! That simple statement is a simple statement of truth.
"YOU have nothing to do with knowing or deciding what God thinks about homosexuality or anything else. You are NOT God and ONLY God needs to know."
Again, you must have failed biology since nearly every species on earth engages in same-sex behavior, and it works just fine. In fact, it has evolutionary benefits. You're also aware that not all gays engage in anal sex right? Are you aware that far more heterosexuals engage in it then gays? Yet you guys constantly attack gays and ignore heterosexuals.
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Gee could that be because there are a lot more heterosexuals?
Bingo! Give Jeff a cigar!
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Certainly doesn't explain why homosexuals are contracting HIV 60 times the rate of a heterosexual.
Irrelevant to the thread topic. And besides, that's a red herring, Jeff, and you know it.
Let's face it ...you've been caught out with regard to the fact that HETEROSEXUALS perform "eeewwwww" sexual acts that would most definitely displease God! I would suggest that bringing attention to such 'abominations' as performed by heterosexuals (and probably even - gasp - church-goers! ) should most definitely be placed on the church sermon agenda ASAP . . .
Your argument is moot, Jimmie. It really is! When are you and others going to catch on? As has been pointed out on this and other threads ...the very same things that you claim above - unnatural, abnormal and ungodly sex acts, as you put it - apply to more heterosexuals than homosexuals.
What's your comeback on this? Or, is the above factoid too difficult for you to grasp?
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Not difficult. If I understand you correctly, I agree.
A question on gays that has been asked but never actually answered, where do gays gays come from if not created by God? Oh yes, someone said something about the devil ... !? Someone else said something about original sin ... !?
If it were an original sin thing then we are all gay!
The devil creating anything at all? I don't think so! And let's not insult our gays with such bull s**t! More likely the devil created the fundamentalists! Come to think of it ....
No, God created the gay gene in all living things (and saw that it was good - it's right there in your own bible should anyone care to look. OK, it does not say Got created genes - how could he have? Genes were unknown back then).
....My niece is in college and I was flooded when she told me almost every girl on her softball team is a lesbian. That would have been unheard of just 10 years ago.
So what? The fact that he and other fundamentalists are also prudish about heterosexual acts does not excuse condemnation of homosexual relationships exclusively. As pointed out to jeffbase above, it should be addressed just as much from the pulpit or even more since it is more likely to be "sin" indulged by members of the congregation. It still points out the hypocrisy of the fundamentalist approach.
The bible is clear on the subject. Its not OK to be gay. Being an Agnostic I really don't care, but I also do not try to twist the bible into saying what it does not. ....
The bible is a melange of mythology, pseudo-history and an occasional dollop of actual history. There is absolutely no reason for gay people to get involved in trying to re-package it, you are absolutely right.
Surely there are better things for people - all people - to be doing with their lives.
A question on gays that has been asked but never actually answered, where do gays gays come from if not created by God? Oh yes, someone said something about the devil ... !? Someone else said something about original sin ... !?
If it were an original sin thing then we are all gay!
The devil creating anything at all? I don't think so! And let's not insult our gays with such bull s**t! More likely the devil created the fundamentalists! Come to think of it ....
No, God created the gay gene in all living things (and saw that it was good - it's right there in your own bible should anyone care to look. OK, it does not say Got created genes - how could he have? Genes were unknown back then).
Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that "God" was any more enlightened about pretty much everything than were the human authors of the Bible. In other words, the Bible was not only written by mere mortals but it never exceeded the knowledge base of those mere mortals. There was only a certain amount of information available to draw on and the authors drew on that. I hope that I'm wrong but I would hazard a guess (and that's all it is) that no supernatural being is necessary for the 'authoring' of the Bible.
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That simple statement is a simple statement of truth.
) should most definitely be placed on the church sermon agenda ASAP . . .
It wasn't what I expected either and it was well played! 
