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Old 08-14-2016, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Yes, it is because God is holy, just and eternal.
Another gold star for jimmie's mommy's fridge!!
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:10 PM
 
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I do not believe in ET, nor do I believe in annihilation. I find both doctrines to be un-biblical.
I would hope that your greatest criticism of them is NOT that they are unbiblical, Katz. How about primitive, barbaric and completely pointless?
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Old 08-15-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I do not believe in ET, nor do I believe in annihilation. I find both doctrines to be un-biblical.
A reasonable position from a moral point of view. Unfortunately, the bible is much less moral.
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Old 08-15-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Which is one of your "proof texts". I disagree that it means what you think it does and I'll simply refer you back to what I said:

You base your belief in annihilation on some proof texts in the bible. My belief that you are mistaken is based on believing that, with the God who is love, such a thing is not possible.

What isn't possible??? Destruction--Jesus taught it is the end for all walking the broad and spacious path--Jesus only speaks what God told him to speak--so is God lying---NO-- its just your confusion and lack of truth. You cannot possibly accomplish this-John 4:22-24 if you do not know truth.
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Old 08-15-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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Amen, Pleroo!!!



Jesus says it is possible-- We all must choose who we believe--Who did God tell us to believe???= Jesus
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Old 08-15-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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What isn't possible??? Destruction--Jesus taught it is the end for all walking the broad and spacious path--Jesus only speaks what God told him to speak--so is God lying---NO-- its just your confusion and lack of truth. You cannot possibly accomplish this-John 4:22-24 if you do not know truth.
Yep, the broad way leads to "destruction" or apōleia which is derived from the word apollymi.

Of course, Jesus also said that the Son of Man came to seek and save that which is "lost" or apollymi.

And you are saying that the Son can't succeed in that mission. Tsk.
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Yep, the broad way leads to "destruction" or apōleia which is derived from the word apollymi.

Of course, Jesus also said that the Son of Man came to seek and save that which is "lost" or apollymi.

And you are saying that the Son can't succeed in that mission. Tsk.
Apparently not. Even with God being all knowing, he still created man, designed him to fail, then created a torture chamber for him, all the while knowing most would fail. Some God you have there.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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Apparently not. Even with God being all knowing, he still created man, designed him to fail, then created a torture chamber for him, all the while knowing most would fail. Some God you have there.
Says who?
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Says who?
So, God is not all knowing?

Got questions.org says so.

http://www.gotquestions.org/God-know-future.html
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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So, God is not all knowing?

Got questions.org says so.

Does God know the future?

If you are looking for someone who is going to defend the statement on that link that, "The Bible is always completely accurate", you're barking up the wrong tree directing your comments to me.
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