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Old 10-24-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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So, Bible God is a murderer by proxy, Koran God isn't.

Koran God, score 1.
now we're back to "God is a murderer," ignoring that God can make a seed, but you can't.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Your God murders, and commands others to murder. But your God resides in a book.

The wheat and the tares both grow within each person. Which has nothing to do with bible-God murdering.
just as the existence of Jesus cannot be definitively proved, equally God killing anyone, ever, cannot. Those are stories that contain truth, not meant to be taken for facts that can be proven imo.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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the point may be that we know, for a fact, that there was only hydrogen at one time, and everything came from it decaying. We have even seen to before that time, right after the Bang, when hydrogen had not formed yet. The point being that we see that there was a beginning, which implies a force that begun. that is my evidence.
Sure, that is a reasonable implication, but it is not evidence. That force could be any number of possibilities that we don't know about. What evidence has caused you to conclude that its the Christian God that intervenes in our daily lives?
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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now we're back to "God is a murderer," ignoring that God can make a seed, but you can't.
Do you have any evidence that your God can make a seed?
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Your God murders, and commands others to murder. But your God resides in a book.

The wheat and the tares both grow within each person. Which has nothing to do with bible-God murdering.

And again, you didn't read or comprehend what I said. There is a difference between killing and murder. And yes, there are tares and wheat in each person. That is the microcosm view of the word. But there is a macrocosm view as well. Both witness each other, so you can't take one and call it righteous, and the other sin. Peace
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Sure, that is a reasonable implication, but it is not evidence. That force could be any number of possibilities that we don't know about. What evidence has caused you to conclude that its the Christian God that intervenes in our daily lives?
i have not made that conclusion, that i am aware of.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Do you have any evidence that your God can make a seed?
i do not "have a god." There is no "your God." Either you can make a seed, or something greater than you has made seeds, that we do not know.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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ah, with their mouth, you mean. The way that law that you have adopted, that you assume is backed by Scripture, details it. Is it possible that you accepted the interpretation of that passage at first glance, and maybe now are closed to the spiritual interpretation? Iow could i possibly accept Christ with my mouth, and then deny Christ with my mouth right afterward, from my heart, without even realizing it?

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Is possible you are assuming everything you have posted here.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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now we're back to "God is a murderer," ignoring that God can make a seed, but you can't.

Bible God killed, and commanded his followers to kill, regardless of anything else you may say about it.

If the spirit you or Rbbi listen to tell you to kill another, what will you do? Kill? Because, after all, "God can make a seed".
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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ok, nice! imo. it's a start anyway. Not sure a fundie will be able to assimilate that very well, and it hardly stands up against the many OT refs for blood sacrifice, not to mention that the whole NT is predicated on Christ's sacrifice, but i note we only have 3 verses there directly referencing "Christ's blood."

So maybe what i'm asking is, how do you address that the whole belief system of Christianity seems to revolve around Christ being a willing sacrifice, of blood, to replace the animal sacrifices, of blood, throughout the OT. With the Bible, because Tanakh is not going to fly for a Christian.
We accept all of the OT as much as we do the NT.
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