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Old 10-24-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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well, but before you know it, we can be talking about justified killing, and i will be making Rib's point. "Murder" is a subjective assessment, in the end.
If you can ever prove that God commanded anyone to kill, let me know.

And if you want to try to make the point that it would be justified or righteous for God to command people to kill as some sort of object lesson ("drawing a picture" for his children), have at it.

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Old 10-24-2016, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Florida -
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Really?? 800 posts on this thread on the Christianity forum and most of them attacking the Bible or Bible-believers! -- Shakespeare's line from Hamlet seems to fit: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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Really?? 800 posts on this thread on the Christianity forum and most of them attacking the Bible or Bible-believers! -- Shakespeare's line from Hamlet seems to fit: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."
Yeah more unbeliever and those who believe in themselves than the Bible are here these days.
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Yeah more unbeliever and those who believe in themselves than the Bible are here these days.
Don't forget all those who claim to believe the Bible, but really believe only the doctrines they have been taught.
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Really?? 800 posts on this thread on the Christianity forum and most of them attacking the Bible or Bible-believers! -- Shakespeare's line from Hamlet seems to fit: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."
Is that what you really think?

Really?

Because what I hear from fundies is false bravado -- impotent bellowing as they sink into the tar sands of irrelevance.

Buh-bye JWs. Even they will realize in a couple more generations how totally wrong those seven old NYC men were.

Buh-bye Calvinists. You might be born rotten but the rest of us weren't.

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Yeah more unbeliever and those who believe in themselves than the Bible are here these days.
Because more and more people are awakening to what is true.

And leaving spiritual dinosaurs to their deserved fate.

Buh-bye!
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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At this point, a creator (of some sort) is the only answer we have. The creator/maker/designer is always greater than the created. Therefore, it is feasible that the creator exists on a higher plane and needs no creating. Infinite creator makes no sense.
I don't know how you were able to evaluate the likelihood of a creator existing on a higher plane since we have no mechanism to demonstrate it. I agree that an infinite creator makes no sense, with what we now know, but isn't this what you believe?

We do indeed have other possible answers, answers that we don't know about yet. You have not only discounted other answers without reason, but you have made the leap from creator to the Abrahamic God.

Assuming that your assertion that there must be a creator is true, how did you discount the possibility of universe-creating pixies without presupposing the Abrahamic God?
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I don't know how you were able to evaluate the likelihood of a creator existing on a higher plane since we have no mechanism to demonstrate it. I agree that an infinite creator makes no sense, with what we now know, but isn't this what you believe?

We do indeed have other possible answers, answers that we don't know about yet. You have not only discounted other answers without reason, but you have made the leap from creator to the Abrahamic God.

Assuming that your assertion that there must be a creator is true, how did you discount the possibility of universe-creating pixies without presupposing the Abrahamic God?
LOL! (bolded above)
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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LOL! (bolded above)
Assuming that you weren't being intentionally obtuse, without any mechanism yet to evaluate what was before the Big Bang, we cannot rule out any possibilities. Therefore we have any number of POSSIBLE answers, any one as likely as the one asserted in the Bible.
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Assuming that you weren't being intentionally obtuse, without any mechanism yet to evaluate what was before the Big Bang, we cannot rule out any possibilities. Therefore we have any number of POSSIBLE answers, any one as likely as the one asserted in the Bible.
You have no possibilities other possibilities!
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You have no possibilities other possibilities!
Thank you, little jimmie, for yet another example of fundy non-think.
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