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This is just more fundamentalist claptrap. Innumerable people who have had NDE's will all say when they had a life review nobody judged them except themselves. The "sins" they were shown were sins of unkindness and lovelessness and cruelty to others, nothing else.
I could name you a thousand people who have said this exact same thing if I had the time to research them on YouTube. But you all can find the exact same stories if you just google and then read and stop following this Christian balderdash!
and "NDE's" are the source of all truth right ?
of maybe it is just your interpretation of the first few seconds of death that is the source of all truth right ?
honey those people haven't reached the resurrection and it's judgements and then survived it and neither his sWord of his mouth or neither did they survive the Great white throne of the Fathers judgement day . so the only thing those NDE's might prove is at that first seconds of their bodies death judgment starts , and they only judged themselves to know how much they were hypocrites and if they going to a place of sleep and rest before judgement day or torment before the first judgement day/ or(AKA) the resurrection of the " dead " ( those not of his life ) or if they were going to the place reserved for the living in HIM because they knew just how much they were really hypocrites because they used his standards not men's and knew they do not live up to his standards and thus repented continuously and judge themselves by his standards continuously . and thus were alive in HIM because they judge themselves continuously not just the few seconds after the death of their spit and dirt .
seems most of them who had a judgment even their own , they couldn't even pass their own judgement day much less anyone else's ..
all those NDE only prove "hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" to be truth .
Dear 74,
Actually the "cornerstone" is defined by "justice" (Is 28:17). It is the false gospel of grace, which is built on "deception" and "falsehood" and promises protection from the coming "overwhelming scourge" (Is 28:15-18), which is identified as "your covenant with death", that "shall not stand".
Those who "beat his fellow slaves", shall be assigned to "a place with the hypocrite", where there shall be "weeping and gnashing of teeth". (Mt 24:49-51)
Actually, it is only if the slave dies...
Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.------EXODUS 21:20-21
Dear 74,
Actually the "cornerstone" is defined by "justice" (Is 28:17). It is the false gospel of grace, which is built on "deception" and "falsehood" and promises protection from the coming "overwhelming scourge" (Is 28:15-18), which is identified as "your covenant with death", that "shall not stand".
Those who "beat his fellow slaves", shall be assigned to "a place with the hypocrite", where there shall be "weeping and gnashing of teeth". (Mt 24:49-51)
Dear 74,
Actually the "cornerstone" is defined by "justice" (Is 28:17). It is the false gospel of grace, which is built on "deception" and "falsehood" and promises protection from the coming "overwhelming scourge" (Is 28:15-18), which is identified as "your covenant with death", that "shall not stand".
Those who "beat his fellow slaves", shall be assigned to "a place with the hypocrite", where there shall be "weeping and gnashing of teeth". (Mt 24:49-51)
It depends what you mean by justice.... by someone getting their comeuppance or the oppressed and the poor and needy having justice on their side. I favor the latter.
It's only the fundamentalist mindset that wants other to get their just desserts.
What is the point of being good if everyone is forgiven anyway?? Where is the justice for those who were wronged, if God just forgives the perpetrators as long as they believe in Jesus?
Jesus says otherwise about those who choose to live wicked, as a constant lifestyle and think all is okay.
Matthew 7:21-23New King James Version (NKJV) I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
It depends what you mean by justice.... by someone getting their comeuppance or the oppressed and the poor and needy having justice on their side. I favor the latter.
they have it's spiritual analogue, something better; reaping what they sow. The poor and needy must be seen as a manifestation of that culture's practices in action. I think it is a false paradigm, perhaps, to intimate "bad" here, when it is actually a record of progress. The poor and needy have a voice now, in you. "Poor and needy" is in the decline, iow, despite "News" to the contrary. Well, the poor you will always have with you, so ya it doesn't surprise me that this prophecy is being attacked, on another level...so many levels, lol
they have it's spiritual analogue, something better; reaping what they sow. The poor and needy must be seen as a manifestation of that culture's practices in action. I think it is a false paradigm, perhaps, to intimate "bad" here, when it is actually a record of progress. The poor and needy have a voice now, in you. "Poor and needy" is in the decline, iow, despite "News" to the contrary. Well, the poor you will always have with you, so ya it doesn't surprise me that this prophecy is being attacked, on another level...so many levels, lol
but ya, what they said
I need someone to translate your posts for me. It doesn't surprise me that justice in the bible is miss ta ken for punishing the "assumed" sinner .
well, you have to admit it is a valid question, one asked and answered in the Bible, imo. It is called "hating yourself" to follow the Word, after all.
I don't think so. "why be good?" That's the focal point. I am atheist, "I am good" because all we have is each other. well, sorta good
Maybe because I never believed in "be good or he'll get me" so it seems like a silly question. be good for goodness sake. I have no other justification. If a person doesn't understand that ? taz them until they do or shut them off, like any other broken piece of machinery.
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