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And there's an example of your divisiveness. You love to use that phrase, ''the God I know,'' but when replying to those with whom you disagree, you make statements like, ''the god you claim to know.''
Further, the stones couldn't care less about what you post on this forum. Most of which is aimed at trashing fundamentalism, and trashing the Bible which you quote only when it suits you to do so.
Because the God I know is not the same god evangelicals preach n the OT...while your divisiveness is DEMANDING everyone believe in YOUR VERSION of god or else...MINE is all inclusive so how that shows divisiveness is beyond me..
When one excludes other people that by definition is divisiveness
I never said that I isolate myself from those who are different. What I'm saying is that I will always take truth over unity with those who oppose truth. I will never discard truth for the sake of unity. I will never take the lie over the truth for the sake of community. If the truth causes division, then so be it.
Like I said, 'people's lives matter' which is all you had to say instead of making that list of different kinds of people.
You said you will prefer being divided rather than being UNITED.
Do I really need to QUOTE that directly, or do you recall saying that?
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It's true that people's lives matter, but on the issue of unity versus division, I'll take division over unity at the expense of Biblically revealed truth any day. Discarding truth for the sake of unity is evil.
Because the God I know is not the same god evangelicals preach n the OT...while your divisiveness is DEMANDING everyone believe in YOUR VERSION of god or else...MINE is all inclusive so how that shows divisiveness is beyond me..
When one excludes other people that by definition is divisiveness
In rejecting the God of the Old Testament you show that you don't know God at all, because the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are one and the same. And there is only one way to God the Father, and that is though Jesus who is Himself God, the Second Person of the Trinity. To teach any other way to the Father except though Jesus is to reject the truth. You reject the truth. The truth divides those who accept it from those who reject it.
It is true, we are not only dividing ourselves based on LABELS, we actively seek NEW labels to create even greater division.
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Samaritan lives matter.”
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Children’s lives matter.”
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Gentile lives matter.”
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Jewish lives matter.”
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Women’s lives matter.”
Instead of saying all lives matter, Jesus said, “Lepers’ lives matter.”
You said you will prefer being divided rather than being UNITED.
Do I really need to QUOTE that directly, or do you recall saying that?
Are you so bereft of understanding? I do not physically separate myself from people with different beliefs. I do not refuse to help people with different beliefs. But I will never reject the truth in order to be united in a lie with those who reject the truth. Truth divides those who reject it from those who accept it.
Because the God I know is not the same god evangelicals preach n the OT...while your divisiveness is DEMANDING everyone believe in YOUR VERSION of god or else...MINE is all inclusive so how that shows divisiveness is beyond me..
When one excludes other people that by definition is divisiveness
Only a demonic jesus that is masquerading as the truth finds it necessary to inpune the OT or any part of the NT that doesn't fit the humanistic voodoo. The True Jesus NEVER did.
The true Jesus who God the Holy Spirit inspired the Holy Bible to record Jesus' words said he was very exclusive:
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father exceptthroughme." ~ Jesus
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name ofGod’soneandonlySon." ~ Jesus
"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life,
for God’s wrath remains on them." ~ Jesus
So how exclusive is Jesus?
"Salvation is found in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”
Confusion is easy to believe when one refuses to see the whole picture..of the entire list of PEOPLE Jesus says matters, YOU FOCUS ON BLACK LIVES as the THEME???? Time for people to put that sheet away and come out as a HUMAN...
It was you who focused in on those things in your OP when you made your labels and divisions of people groups that Yeshua never spoke about in your terms. Was it me who told you to write it the way you did? Those are your erroneous words. Just because there are various occasions where interactions occur with different kinds of people in the Gospel accounts does not mean that Yeshua differentiates between them in the way that you have tried to portray it in your OP. You made up six labels and classes of people groups but how many did you leave out? By default you left out everyone you did not mention which subconsciously makes a subliminal point in the mind of the reader, (which is a subconscious lie because it is all based on false premises and false statements which Yeshua never said). Your OP is nothing more than an attempt to paint the Gospel into your own corner of socialism which Europe clearly has shown is an abysmal failure because, as the Soviet Union showed, most always leads to outright communism. You think that if your way of thinking, which is now taught in most all universities and college campuses, were to be put into action then supposedly those whom you see as needing true justice would finally get their justice; however, history shows that you have succumbed to a masterful lie. What do you suppose would happen once you helped your favorite leaders, speakers, and teachers get their way? Do you really suppose that all of your dreams would come true and we would finally come to realize your imaginary utopia? Nope, you would become no more than a useless eater in the minds of those whom you helped rise to power, (unless you are lucky enough to be one of them), and you would indeed become equal to the rest; right in line with everyone else standing in the bread line for your weekly rations. Who will you be able to help under those conditions? Will you send part of your weekly bread rations to starving children in Africa? I think not.
nor did Jesus bother to attempt to change it either. In fact he said it would get worse:
“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death,
and you will be hated by all nations because of me." ~ Jesus
"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. " ~ Jesus
Jesus did not resort to trying to change law if that's what you mean....there was no opportunity to do so in His day, however He DID teach to operate in love for EVERYone and THAT will do the job in our lives.
It was you who focused in on those things in your OP when you made your labels and divisions of people groups that Yeshua never spoke about in your terms. Was it me who told you to write it the way you did? Those are your erroneous words. Just because there are various occasions where interactions occur with different kinds of people in the Gospel accounts does not mean that Yeshua differentiates between them in the way that you have tried to portray it in your OP. You made up six labels and classes of people groups but how many did you leave out? By default you left out everyone you did not mention which subconsciously makes a subliminal point in the mind of the reader, (which is a subconscious lie because it is all based on false premises and false statements which Yeshua never said). Your OP is nothing more than an attempt to paint the Gospel into your own corner of socialism which Europe clearly has shown is an abysmal failure because, as the Soviet Union showed, most always leads to outright communism. You think that if your way of thinking, which is now taught in most all universities and college campuses, were to be put into action then supposedly those whom you see as needing true justice would finally get their justice; however, history shows that you have succumbed to a masterful lie. What do you suppose would happen once you helped your favorite leaders, speakers, and teachers get their way? Do you really suppose that all of your dreams would come true and we would finally come to realize your imaginary utopia? Nope, you would become no more than a useless eater in the minds of those whom you helped rise to power, (unless you are lucky enough to be one of them), and you would indeed become equal to the rest; right in line with everyone else standing in the bread line for your weekly rations. Who will you be able to help under those conditions? Will you send part of your weekly bread rations to starving children in Africa? I think not.
Actually, I do share with the elderly, and the marginalized kids in Detroit...
Though you might want to pay attention to the pillars of salt on your way.
Actually, I pay attention to what JESUS sends my way and the message He wants to share with a frightened and confused world.
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