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Yes, Vf6, if a person is looking at the Bible with what I call the Lower Ego Self, the egoic mind...
the worldly mind...only logic, intellectualizing it...it is a mess of a book.
Without getting into lingo others don't understand...I will say if you do not read it with an open heart...it is like a dead book.
I have also seen it as a love letter...an epic story filled with love and adventures...pain and triumph.
BUT, there still are savage stories told that are just not true, blaming my loving
Father God for murders and such.
I filter them out as made up interpretations of events from primitive minds...oh well.
But I could list such Truths and Beauty...one sentence from it can fill me for a whole day....
many sentences have changed the direction at different times of my entire life.
BUT when someone says it is inerrant...a book that accuses my Father of atrocities or jealousy
and wrath ...and punishing souls in hell ...
that is when I stand up and say, No.
To me this is not about Psalm 46 and Shakespeare; that was to make a point.
A God powerful enough to have 40 writers over 1,400 years write the cohesive work we see today was certainly powerful enough to keep His book the way HE wanted it. It works, it's accurate, it inspires, its powerful, its prophecies are 100% true, its unique in all the books of the world there is nothing else like it. I would say God did pretty good............
Yup, and NObuddy has any trouble understanding it, right? That's why such a powerful God is able to keep his church without division.
Did anybody ever think to ask when God promised such a book, or whether another way was indicated?
Of course, I never asked because 1000s of years apart
and 1000s of miles away there were many other scriptures available telling of God's eternal love...and how to get Home.
A God powerful enough to have 40 writers over 1,400 years write the cohesive work we see today was certainly powerful enough to keep His book the way HE wanted it.
Could I change that to practice all that Jesus taught?
'Hepburn hates doctrine'... boy, shot yourself in the foot on that one, twin.spin...anyone that knows me here or in real life
would not place hate with my name ever...kinda showed your hand there
...and clever name...'spin'...I see that now.
I don't even hate you...or the dog next door that barks too much.... oh, yeah...and don't have a doctrine! Ha!
No more clever than yours ... 'burn' .... I see that now. I don't even hate you...
If you love doctrine then you'd accept the doctrine Jesus taught, instead it is you you continue to shoot yourself in the foot with
"there still are savage stories told that are just not true,"
DOCTRINE: "Your word is truth" ~ Jesus DOCTRINE:"All Scripture is God-breathed"
BUT when someone says it is inerrant...a book that accuses my Father of atrocities or jealousy and wrath ...
DOCTRINE:"God's wrath remains" ~ Jesus DOCTRINE: "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God," ~ God
and punishing souls in hell ...
DOCTRINE: “Then he [Jesus] will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you
who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels....
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, ... " ~ Jesus
that is when I stand up and say, No.
CONCLUSION on DOCTRINES : kinda showed your hand
DOCTRINE: “Whoever is not with me is against me," ~ Jesus
I hope you can see past my clever name now ... I'm not against Jesus.
.
Last edited by twin.spin; 08-06-2017 at 01:29 AM..
No more clever than yours ... 'burn' .... I see that now. I don't even hate you...
If you love doctrine then you'd accept the doctrine Jesus taught, instead it is you you continue to shoot yourself in the foot with
"there still are savage stories told that are just not true,"
DOCTRINE: "Your word is truth" ~ Jesus DOCTRINE:"All Scripture is God-breathed"
BUT when someone says it is inerrant...a book that accuses my Father of atrocities or jealousy and wrath ...
DOCTRINE:"God's wrath remains" ~ Jesus DOCTRINE: "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God," ~ God
and punishing souls in hell ...
DOCTRINE: “Then he [Jesus] will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you
who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels....
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, ... " ~ Jesus
that is when I stand up and say, No.
CONCLUSION on DOCTRINES : kinda showed your hand
DOCTRINE: “Whoever is not with me is against me," ~ Jesus
I hope you can see past my clever name now ... I'm not against Jesus.
.
Doctrines such as this are for rebellious man, they are not for those who walk with God.
Why is it important to some that others believe, along with them, that God is wrathful,
jealous, murderous and punishing?
Especially when the others have experienced only His Love and
protection and guidance in their lives? (And often Glory.)
What kind of spin could be placed on that.
"burn'...never thought of that ...I have many times here talked of the burn
I carry around in my chest. Good catch.
Last edited by Miss Hepburn; 08-06-2017 at 04:08 AM..
How?
I mean how could it be?
Oh, if it only were inerrant...how nice that would be.
And I'm not some Bible hater, either...it's just, that's the way it is...men and their edits.
One only has to see how men in power changed it by going to Psalm 46, KJV only.
Count down 46 words, then count up 46 words coming to shakes and spear...
Our good ole King James' homage to W. Shakespeare who was 46.
And no need to make me out as some villain...or a scholar either that can prove all
the changes...there are books galore about shifty reasons why 'those in power'
deleted some things.
And I'm not happy about it.
Doesn't mean I'm attacking those that love it...I mainly disagree with some
interpretations some have, that's all.
And if you get angry at me...sorry...I am unemotional about this...it would be nice if it were
never tampered with!
The KJ is not the best version to bet the home place on when it comes to translations. As a better understanding of Greek and Hebrew became available, the obvious errors in it were corrected in other versions, including the new King James.
The bible has immense value as literature and as a source for learning what people thought and believed thousands of years ago. There are also worthy nuggets of philosophy here and there that merit pondering.
But inerrant? No way Jose.
Why don't you point out some of its inerrancies?
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oh, yeah...and don't have a doctrine! Ha!
