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Old 11-03-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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No. Jesus said,

Matthew 5:20
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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In other words, Your righteousness must exceed the writers of the book?
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Actually...no. The "righteousness" of the scribes and pharisees was a "righteousness" based on observance of the Mosaic Law. The problem is that no one is really righteous that way, as no one can obey it perfectly. The righteousness that saves is the righteousness Jesus gives us when we trust in him.
So, your righteousness/understanding must exceed the book itself?
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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So, your righteousness/understanding must exceed the book itself?
Did you read my post? We must be more righteous than the "righteousness" that the pharisees had by a nominal obedience to the Law. The book actually says that the Law exists not to save, but to expose sin.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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So, your righteousness/understanding must exceed the book itself?
Jesus highly esteemed the Scriptures that you abhor.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus highly esteemed the Scriptures that you abhor.
Actually, he didn't.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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Actually, he didn't.

If He didn't, then He was not the Messiah, and a false prophet, and would not have raised from the dead = no covenant. Peace
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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Actually, he didn't.
Did i just read you correctly?

Surely there was a grammatical error of some sort.
You still havent learned to guard your heart have you jerwade. Yet here you are offering tares to people that know the difference.
Whether oral, written or Straight from the Son himself.
The Word of God never changes.

So be very careful, you are now on treacherous ground.
And there will be no forgiveness if you go any further.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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In other words, Your righteousness must exceed the writers of the book?
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie View Post
Actually...no. The "righteousness" of the scribes and pharisees was a "righteousness" based on observance of the Mosaic Law. The problem is that no one is really righteous that way, as no one can obey it perfectly. The righteousness that saves is the righteousness Jesus gives us when we trust in him.
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So, your righteousness/understanding must exceed the book itself?
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Did you read my post? We must be more righteous than the "righteousness" that the pharisees had by a nominal obedience to the Law. The book actually says that the Law exists not to save, but to expose sin.
I read it, and it appears that you are saying: "Your righteousness/understanding must exceed the book?"
Which I happen to agree with, as the laws of men were ineffectual in producing the desired effect.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Actually, he didn't.
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If He didn't, then He was not the Messiah, and a false prophet, and would not have raised from the dead = no covenant. Peace
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Did i just read you correctly?

Surely there was a grammatical error of some sort.
You still havent learned to guard your heart have you jerwade.

Yet here you are offering tares to people that know the difference.

Whether oral, written or Straight from the Son himself.
The Word of God never changes.

So be very careful, you are now on treacherous ground.
And there will be no forgiveness if you go any further.
Tighten the draw string on those red-pajamas before you go trick or treating.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: New England
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Jesus highly esteemed the Scriptures that you abhor.
Do you have a scripture for that?.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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If He didn't, then He was not the Messiah, and a false prophet, and would not have raised from the dead = no covenant. Peace
Amen! Jesus said this to His disciples after He was raised from the dead:

Luke 24
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
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