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Jesus was a Jew, He spoke in the manner of the Jew and taught in the manner of the Jew using things the Jews would understand. The Jews did not have the concept of hell that you believe in, Gehenna to them was a place of purification for up to 12 months. Yet you believe it is for eternity which is a pagan belief.
Then He is not the saviour of ALL mankind but only the potential saviour of ALL men.
Why is it you have to add to the scripture something not said in them to get your doctrine of devils?
The whole of scripture clearly teaches us that there is everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46), where there is "wailing and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 13:41-42, Matthew 13:39-50).
2. reverence, respect (for authority, rank, dignity): Romans 13:7; 1 Peter 2:18; 1 Peter 3:16 (15); ἡ ἐν φόβῳ ἀναστροφή, behavior coupled with (cf. ἐν, I. 5 e.) reverence for one's husband, 1 Peter 3:2; φόβος with a genitive of the object: τοῦ κυρίου, Acts 9:31; 2 Corinthians 5:11; Χριστοῦ, Ephesians 5:21 (not Rec.); Θεοῦ, Romans 3:18; 2 Corinthians 7:1; (Ephesians 5:21 Rec.); Θεοῦ is omitted as suggested by the context, 1 Peter 1:17; (often in the O. T. יְהוָה יִרְאַת and אֱלֹהִים יִרְאַת). (Synonyms: see δειλία, δέος, at the end; cf. φοβέω.)
When Jesus spoke of Gehenna every Jew in Israel knew exactly what He was speaking of. That's why He used it as an example.
I've already covered this is a previous thread, in detail.
They knew Jesus was speaking of that place just outside of Jerusalem where their fathers in the Old Testament burned their children in the fire to the gods of the pagans around them.
Jesus was a Jew, He spoke in the manner of the Jew and taught in the manner of the Jew using things the Jews would understand. The Jews did not have the concept of hell that you believe in, Gehenna to them was a place of purification for up to 12 months. Yet you believe it is for eternity which is a pagan belief.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
Nope.
It is very Christian.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
The whole of scripture clearly teaches us that there is everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46), where there is "wailing and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 13:41-42, Matthew 13:39-50).
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Originally Posted by Charlie24
That is exactly right, NOPE!
When Jesus spoke of Gehenna every Jew in Israel knew exactly what He was speaking of. That's why He used it as an example.
I've already covered this is a previous thread, in detail.
They knew Jesus was speaking of that place just outside of Jerusalem where their fathers in the Old Testament burned their children in the fire to the gods of the pagans around them.
Pneuma, you are talking to two ignorant souls who follow the ignorance of their predecessors who mixed and blended into their beliefs the false ideologies (mythologies) of hell and eternal damnation. They have not the education or ability to discern truth from fallacy. And merely go with rote learning based on repetition or memorization techniques, no real understanding.
Pneuma, you are talking to two ignorant souls who follow the ignorance of their predecessors who mixed and blended into their beliefs the false ideologies (mythologies) of hell and eternal damnation. They have not the education or ability to discern truth from fallacy. And merely go with rote learning based on repetition or memorization techniques, no real understanding.
I had hoped this was not true of Charlie, but I fear you are correct, Jer.
nope it is very pagan, as can be seen by all the pagan religion of the world which have a god that torment people.
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