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You have said that the Lord Jesus has already come, but we don’t believe it. We have had faith in the Lord for many years and have always toiled tirelessly for Him. When the Lord comes He should first reveal it to us. Since the Lord has not revealed it to us, that just shows us that He hasn’t returned. What is wrong with this belief?
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When Jesus does come to rid the world of antichrist, false prophet and the dragon , ALL flesh will not survive , but Jesus will resurrect the body of Christ and rule the earth for thousand years ............... On the mean time when People get saved to Christ from repentance and faith then Jesus will give His Holy Spirit who can bring them today understanding and revelation of His Word
When Jesus does come to rid the world of antichrist, false prophet and the dragon , ALL flesh will not survive , but Jesus will resurrect the body of Christ and rule the earth for thousand years ............... On the mean time when People get saved to Christ from repentance and faith then Jesus will give His Holy Spirit who can bring them today understanding and revelation of His Word
In Scripture, anyone who is against Christ is an antichrist, so No one person will be an antichrist.
What we find as the ' final signal ', so to speak, before Jesus takes action is that the 'powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14,9; 1st Thess. 5:2-3.
Then, the executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-16; Psalms 92:7
The upright will remain - Proverbs 2:21-22; Psalm 37:9-11; Rev. 11:18 B.
Those who survive are considered as the figurative righteous ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40; Matthew 5:5.
They will be 'saved / delivered/ rescued' through Armageddon to be here for calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth when it begins.
You have said that the Lord Jesus has already come, but we don’t believe it. We have had faith in the Lord for many years and have always toiled tirelessly for Him. When the Lord comes He should first reveal it to us. Since the Lord has not revealed it to us, that just shows us that He hasn’t returned. What is wrong with this belief?
I can agree that Jesus has Not already come - Matthew 25:31-33 - because his 'glory time' is still ahead of us.
1st Thess. 5:2-3 already reveals to us what comes next is that the ' powers that be ' will be saying, " Peace and Security..." as the ' final signal ' before the outbreak of the great tribulation of Rev. 7:14,9.
Since we are at the ' final phase ', so to speak, of the international proclaiming about the good news of God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 then what is revealed at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 is close at hand before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will be the one to usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.
In Scripture, anyone who is against Christ is an antichrist, so No one person will be an antichrist. What we find as the ' final signal ', so to speak, before Jesus takes action is that the 'powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14,9; 1st Thess. 5:2-3.
Then, the executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-16; Psalms 92:7
The upright will remain - Proverbs 2:21-22; Psalm 37:9-11; Rev. 11:18 B.
Those who survive are considered as the figurative righteous ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40; Matthew 5:5.
They will be 'saved / delivered/ rescued' through Armageddon to be here for calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth when it begins.
I find this kind of confusing, because we can look around at the world now and thru out history, there has NEVER been a time when 'peace and security' reigns...and I think its safe to say its totally out of the realm of possibilities for the foreseeable future too!!
Im thinking though, if that is true, we are a VERY LONG way off from this event happening, probably 1000s of years at least, if ever!
Ive actually wondered a few times if this verse (and some other similar verses that speak of 'times' not looking like 'the end is near), are not implying something else...maybe that this event WILL NEVER happen?
Honestly what are the odds there will ever be a time period in our world, when 'peace and security' are the signs of the times, or that there will ever be a time period where at least a certain percentage of people DO NOT believe, 'the end is near'( at hand)? I just do not see a time period like this EVER coming to fruition.
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I find this kind of confusing, because we can look around at the world now and thru out history, there has NEVER been a time when 'peace and security' reigns...and I think its safe to say its totally out of the realm of possibilities for the foreseeable future too!!
Im thinking though, if that is true, we are a VERY LONG way off from this event happening, probably 1000s of years at least, if ever!
Ive actually wondered a few times if this verse (and some other similar verses that speak of 'times' not looking like 'the end is near), are not implying something else...maybe that this event WILL NEVER happen?
Honestly what are the odds there will ever be a time period in our world, when 'peace and security' are the signs of the times, or that there will ever be a time period where at least a certain percentage of people DO NOT believe, 'the end is near'( at hand)? I just do not see a time period like this EVER coming to fruition.
No, you have it wrong, it is not that there is peace and safety, it is the ones who are living in darkness and who do not know the times and seasons and are saying peace and safety’ the destruction comes to THEM
The Day of the Lord
1Th 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need for it to be written.
1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know accurately that the day of the Lord, as a thief in the night, so it comes.
1Th 5:3 For when they say, Peace and safety! Then suddenly destruction comes upon them, like the travail to the one having babe in womb, and not at all shall they escape.
1Th 5:4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the Day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 You are all sons of light and sons of day; we are not of night, nor of darkness.
Those already living in the light do not get caught by the coming of the day which reveals all things and is about judgement
According to John, the antichrist is a spirit, and there are many.
Televangelists equate the antichrist with the beast in Revelation, because it sounds more dramatic and scarier.
It helps them sell their end-of-the-world horror novels so that they can make millions of dollars and buy mansions and planes.
They'll keep doing it as long as church people keep giving them money.
Well, there are certain aspects of the AC, that point to him being a single person though, like the verse that talks about him being injured in childhood, but not fatally, another verse about Satan 'assisting' him thru out his life, said he will come from the world of politics, and will cause craft to prosper in his hand, etc
Well, there are certain aspects of the AC, that point to him being a single person though, like the verse that talks about him being injured in childhood, but not fatally, another verse about Satan 'assisting' him thru out his life, said he will come from the world of politics, and will cause craft to prosper in his hand, etc
In one sense, there are many antichrists. Anyone who denies that Jesus came in the flesh is antichrist according to 2 John 1:7.
But there will be an individual, used by Satan in the Tribulation, who Paul refers to as the man of lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 who is THE antichrist, though Paul does not use that title for him. This man of lawlessness will take his seat in the temple and proclaim himself to be God as per 2 Thess. 2:4. This is also the same individual who Daniel 9:27 refers to as the prince who is to come. He is referred to as the beast in Revelation chapter 13. He will be the political leader of a confederation and will sign a peace treaty with Israel that he will break after 3 1/2 years (Dan. 9:27). The signing of that peace treaty with Israel will signal the beginning of the seven year Tribulational period.
Different titles; antichrist, man of lawlessness, the beast, the prince who is to come, all refer to the same individual.
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