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Old 02-24-2021, 08:26 PM
 
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A lot of people think as the ^ above ^ but to me what is ^ above ^ is Not what the Bible teaches.

First, God created the invisible spirit realm of existence in the Heaven.
Second, God expanded his creation business to include our visible physical realm of existence here on material Earth.

What was lost in Eden (everlasting life on Earth) will, through Christ, be regained: everlasting life on Earth forever.
This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon humanity.
Even to the point that ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth according to 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
There is coming ' healing ' for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2. No one will say, " I am sick..." -Isaiah 33:24
Heavens (rulers) and earth (the subjects) have boundaries and have their specific limits

The Scriptures tell us of particular boundaries


Act 2:5**And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6**Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7**And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
Act 2:8**And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Act 2:9**Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10**Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11**Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Act 2:12**And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
Act 2:13**Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

I do believe there are other hierarchies, principalities but they are not understood by a singular “denomination” the Scriptures are multi-level and need interpreting in particular “orders”
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Old 02-24-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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And what you refuse to notice is that Matthew 10:28 says you are not to fear those who can kill the body, BUT CANNOT KILL THE SOUL. That means that physical death does not kill the soul.............
Have you ever read Matthew 10:28 the "B" part ( the latter end part ) __________
It reads: be in fear of Him who 'can' destroy both body and soul.....
Be in fear of Him who can: destroy the body
Be in fear of Him who can: destroy the soul

Any comments about Acts 3:23 _______________
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Old 02-24-2021, 09:11 PM
 
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Have you ever read Matthew 10:28 the "B" part ( the latter end part ) __________
It reads: be in fear of Him who 'can' destroy both body and soul.....
Be in fear of Him who can: destroy the body
Be in fear of Him who can: destroy the soul

Any comments about Acts 3:23 _______________
Yes, I have read the ''B'' part. But you have never read the ''A'' part. The ''B'' part refers to the lake of fire. The ''A'' part refers to physical death. Again, Matthew 10:28 is clearly saying the the soul survives physical death.

Acts 3:23 is simply referring to physical death. The word 'soul' here is not referring to the immaterial soul but to a person being cut off from his people.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:26 AM
 
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Yes, redeem adamic sin from fallen father Adam for without Christ there could be No resurrection from death from adamic sin.
Yes, the spirit world (invisible angels) existed first before the material / physical realm or world.
Satan's sin committed in the spirit world is unforgivable - Matthew 12:32 - so was mortal Adam's sin.
Because of Jesus' ransom sacrifice for humanity sins can be forgiven.
When mortal Adam died Adam returned to the dust of the ground - Genesis 3:19
ALL of Adam included his flesh, one and skin because Adam was a living soul - Genesis 2:7
At death Adam become a dead soul, a life-less soul or person.

Mr. Matthew the Adam in the Garden of Eden is not the same from the Adam after the fall. The Adam in the Garden has no fresh, no skin, no bone, it is possessing the likeness of God a spirit. That is why it is said in Gen 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likenes. Adam was like the appearance of God, a spirit, can not be seen like air, can you see air, no physical image can not be seen by the naked eye except by the eye of his fellow soul/spirit.
The biggest mistake of man is that they assumed that the Adam in the Garden of Eden was a mortal man. That is the reason why they did not understand the Bible ever since. They made trouble understanding/interpreting the Bible from the first book until the last book.
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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Mr. Matthew the Adam in the Garden of Eden is not the same from the Adam after the fall. The Adam in the Garden has no fresh, no skin, no bone, it is possessing the likeness of God a spirit. That is why it is said in Gen 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likenes. Adam was like the appearance of God, a spirit, can not be seen like air, can you see air, no physical image can not be seen by the naked eye except by the eye of his fellow soul/spirit.
The biggest mistake of man is that they assumed that the Adam in the Garden of Eden was a mortal man. That is the reason why they did not understand the Bible ever since. They made trouble understanding/interpreting the Bible from the first book until the last book.
Oh, but you are here to straighten everyone out with your ideas.
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Oh, but you are here to straighten everyone out with your ideas.
He is way closer than you, the spirit of Adam has been in every man who has ever lived save one man.

Jesus came as a new Adam because the Adam we were born with has no power and thus a need for a new Adam. There were some people who were born who received a new spirit that replaced the old Adam, but very few. There were thousands in the beginning, but that was 2000 years ago
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Old 02-25-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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Oh, but you are here to straighten everyone out with your ideas.
Not everyone thinks that God stopped inspiring people 2020+ years ago, Michael. The religions have just blocked any possibility of acknowledging any with their absurd retention of the ancient ignorance as a sign of faith in God. It has been a travesty that has stagnated any spiritual evolution and understanding of God. It has demanded ever-increasing denials of any advancement of knowledge to the point of the absolute absurdity known as fundamentalism.
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Old 02-25-2021, 06:05 PM
 
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Yes, I have read the ''B'' part. But you have never read the ''A'' part. The ''B'' part refers to the lake of fire. The ''A'' part refers to physical death. Again, Matthew 10:28 is clearly saying the the soul survives physical death.

Acts 3:23 is simply referring to physical death. The word 'soul' here is not referring to the immaterial soul but to a person being cut off from his people.
The Lake of fire is not HELL. And contrary to popular opinion the soul is not immortal.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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The Lake of fire is not HELL. And contrary to popular opinion the soul is not immortal.
Maybe someday you'll learn to back up your opinions with evidence instead of making mere assertions. And I didn't say that the lake of fire was 'hell' though some do consider the lake of fire to be the final hell as opposed to Hades.

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Old 02-25-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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Not everyone thinks that God stopped inspiring people 2020+ years ago, Michael. The religions have just blocked any possibility of acknowledging any with their absurd retention of the ancient ignorance as a sign of faith in God. It has been a travesty that has stagnated any spiritual evolution and understanding of God. It has demanded ever-increasing denials of any advancement of knowledge to the point of the absolute absurdity known as fundamentalism.
You aren't even replying to my reply to what he actually said about Adam not being physical in the garden, but a spirit.

Assuming that there was even a historical Adam.
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