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Old 07-05-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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is evil state of consciousness (from Romans 3 ESV):
"both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
"None is righteous, no, not one;
11no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
13“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16in their paths are ruin and misery,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
it is the same problem that Cain had and pre-flood people, and post-flood people and people of now.
Except 12"But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:15 PM
 
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Original sin would be the very first sin committed.
When Adam and Eve broke God's Law by eating the forbidden fruit that was the first or original sin.
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Old 07-05-2021, 06:43 PM
 
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The original sin theology is a fallacy.
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Old 07-05-2021, 06:56 PM
 
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The original sin theology is a fallacy.
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:23 PM
 
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is evil state of consciousness (from Romans 3 ESV):
"both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
"None is righteous, no, not one;
11no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
13“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16in their paths are ruin and misery,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
it is the same problem that Cain had and pre-flood people, and post-flood people and people of now.
Except 12"But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."
Total depravity, that's who we are before we come to Christ. Man left on his own will not seek God and cannot, he is spiritually dead. God chose the Gospel to awaken those who are the called.

But when we come to Christ,

We are not born of blood/ we can't come by natural birth, but by Spirit.

Nor of the will of the flesh/ can't earn it by what we do, it's by faith.

Nor of the will of man/ religious efforts won't get you there, it's God' way.

But of God/ salvation is all of God and none of man.
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Old 07-06-2021, 03:15 AM
 
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Adam and Eve may have handed over the earth to the devil when they sinned against God, so people are naturally born into a world of sin, so sin is common place, as the devil is still in the earth who influences people to sin ....... But Jesus came and died on the cross of Christ and became the lone judgment for God to overcome the world and save people from being lost, where people can be free in the eyes of God to be sinless and even children born into this world God can receive protection from sin when parents of these children pray asking forgiveness
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Old 07-06-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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is evil state of consciousness (from Romans 3 ESV):
"both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
"None is righteous, no, not one;
11no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
13“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16in their paths are ruin and misery,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
it is the same problem that Cain had and pre-flood people, and post-flood people and people of now.
Except 12"But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."

The original sin is recorded at Genesis 3:6 G
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:55 AM
 
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The original sin theology is a fallacy.
correct,
there was a reason of human consciousness appearing in physical world, it is selfishness and it was to be cured through interactions in physical world.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:58 AM
 
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The original sin is recorded at Genesis 3:6 G
that's what human lore calls it.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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6"The LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary toc you, but you must rule over it.”
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