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Old 08-17-2021, 09:41 PM
 
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Psalm 145:17 (KJV) The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

So what did Jesus say about His words?

He said His words were not His own that they are God’s works.

So God’s words are what makes a man Holy. That’s why Jesus said that words save or words condemn.

That’s why Jesus said that speaking the truth, God’s word, makes one righteous.

“The words I speak are not my own it is the Father who lives in me performing His works.”( Jesus)

“Whoever seeks the glory of the one who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.” (Jesus)

By these three verses does it make sense?
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Old 08-17-2021, 09:48 PM
 
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Psalm 145:17 (KJV) The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.
So what did Jesus say about His words?
He said His words were not His own that they are God’s works.
So God’s words are what makes a man Holy. That’s why Jesus said that words save or words condemn.
That’s why Jesus said that speaking the truth, God’s word, makes one righteous.
“The words I speak are not my own it is the Father who lives in me performing His works.”( Jesus)
“Whoever seeks the glory of the one who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.” (Jesus)
By these three verses does it make sense?
You want this simplistic and simple-minded interpretation to be true so you can feel righteous and holy by parroting words, but it is not true. This is your version of "easy believism" to make it easy to be righteous and holy. Grow up and actually try to love God and each other every day and repent when you fail, period.
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Old 08-17-2021, 09:53 PM
 
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Rom 10:8, But what saith <the righteousness of faith>? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
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Old 08-18-2021, 06:47 PM
 
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You want this simplistic and simple-minded interpretation to be true so you can feel righteous and holy by parroting words, but it is not true. This is your version of "easy believism" to make it easy to be righteous and holy. Grow up and actually try to love God and each other every day and repent when you fail, period.
Your way has no Biblical backing.

Mine is the only way. If it’s so easy and simple do it.

It’s not easy at all. It’s not simple minded either or it would have been seen by now.

Loving God is serving Him and others at the same time.

“Whatever the heart is full of that’s what the mouth will speak.” Jesus

Speak the truth to one another, judge righteously and let honesty and peace be at your gates.” OT

“Walk in the light while you have it or darkness will come over you.”
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Old 08-18-2021, 06:48 PM
 
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Rom 10:8, But what saith <the righteousness of faith>? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Paul fails you.
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Old 08-18-2021, 07:04 PM
 
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Paul fails you.
Free, is the New Covenant a lie, does it not exist?

The reason I ask is that Jesus said at the Last Supper, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”

This is what Paul taught, so if Paul fails us, what do you consider the New Covenant to be?
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Old 08-18-2021, 07:41 PM
 
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This is just "building blocks" juvenile theology. Throw some verses together, make assumptions, try to tie it all together, and expect to mean something significant. It just fails. Give it up Free-ster.

Read and leave alone scripture. Don't try to create scriptural 'recipes' that make no sense to others and smell bad. LOL

We're all just humans. None are righteous, and none are holy. But it's okay. We're imperfect, but blessed and capable of much. Drop the analysis and microscope work, and roll up your sleeves and be productive. Every day we've been given is a gift, and we need to use the time wisely.

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Old 08-18-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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Free, is the New Covenant a lie, does it not exist?

The reason I ask is that Jesus said at the Last Supper, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”

This is what Paul taught, so if Paul fails us, what do you consider the New Covenant to be?
In regards to the blood of the new covenant what did Paul say?

He had no idea what the new covenant was and is.

The blood of the son of man is as Jesus said;

“For my flesh is true food and my blood is honest drink.”

What is the derivative of true and honest? It is the truth. What is truth as determined by Jesus?

God’s word!

The body and blood of the son of man and son of God is the truth, God’s word!

“This is the covenant I have made with them, my spirit which is upon you and my words which I have put into your mouth shall never leave your mouth nor the mouths of your children nor the mouths of your children’s children from now on and forever.”
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Old 08-18-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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This is just "building blocks" juvenile theology. Throw some verses together, make assumptions, try to tie it all together, and expect to mean something significant. It just fails. Give it up Free-ster.

Read and leave alone scripture. Don't try to create scriptural 'recipes' that make no sense to others and smell bad. LOL

We're all just humans. None are righteous, and none are holy. But it's okay. We're imperfect, but blessed and capable of much. Drop the analysis and microscope work, and roll up your sleeves and be productive. Every day we've been given is a gift, and we need to use the time wisely.
No. You just can’t accept it cause your entrenched in religious nonsense. There is a way for the secrets of God to be revealed but it is not as a Christian.

“The LORD God does nothing without revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets.”
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:16 AM
 
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In regards to the blood of the new covenant what did Paul say?

He had no idea what the new covenant was and is.

The blood of the son of man is as Jesus said;

“For my flesh is true food and my blood is honest drink.”

What is the derivative of true and honest? It is the truth. What is truth as determined by Jesus?

God’s word!

The body and blood of the son of man and son of God is the truth, God’s word!

“This is the covenant I have made with them, my spirit which is upon you and my words which I have put into your mouth shall never leave your mouth nor the mouths of your children nor the mouths of your children’s children from now on and forever.”
Would you agree that Jesus did not mean to literally take of His flesh and blood? Seeing how that would be impossible, but to take it spiritually?

He gave His blood as atonement for sin and His body through sacrifice to usher in the New Covenant of Grace for man to be set free from his sin and the curse of the Law.

For he who is bound by the Law must keep the Law perfectly or be condemned by it, but Christ through His sacrifice brought freedom from the demands of the Law that condemned us in that we can not keep it perfectly, no matter how hard we try.

Is this not truth as Paul explains it to us?
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