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Old 09-07-2021, 05:26 AM
 
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You don't need an Organization of men or their stamp of approval, if it is a personal relationship.

That is true, of course from the time we accepted the first covenant, Jehovah has provided shepherds for us. You don't really think He just lets us stray every which way do you? What kind of Shepherd do you think He is?



You believe in Jesus correct? Is he not Jehovah's chief shepherd?
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Old 09-07-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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You don't need an Organization of men or their stamp of approval, if it is a personal relationship.
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That is true, of course from the time we accepted the first covenant, Jehovah has provided shepherds for us. You don't really think He just lets us stray every which way do you? What kind of Shepherd do you think He is?



You believe in Jesus correct? Is he not Jehovah's chief shepherd?
I don't believe the Jehovah Witness hierarchy to be shepherds, and prefer to stick with the Spirit that dwells within, rather than an external force.
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Old 09-07-2021, 03:16 PM
 
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I don't believe the Jehovah Witness hierarchy to be shepherds, and prefer to stick with the Spirit that dwells within, rather than an external force.
He will not let you go astray!
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Old 09-08-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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I don't believe the Jehovah Witness hierarchy to be shepherds, and prefer to stick with the Spirit that dwells within, rather than an external force.

Who really is the faithful slave
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:14 AM
 
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Who really is the faithful slave
It ain't the Jehovah Witnesses governing body, nor was it Charles Taze Russel.
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Old 09-10-2021, 05:50 AM
 
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It ain't the Jehovah Witnesses governing body, nor was it Charles Taze Russel.

Since Jesus assigned the faithful slave to shepherd his sheep, do you not deem it necessary to search for those who he has assigned sir? How dependent is your salvation upon being known by them. A shepherd knows his sheep sir.
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Old 09-10-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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It ain't the Jehovah Witnesses governing body, nor was it Charles Taze Russel.
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Since Jesus assigned the faithful slave to shepherd his sheep, do you not deem it necessary to search for those who he has assigned sir? How dependent is your salvation upon being known by them. A shepherd knows his sheep sir.
What has your human Organization or governing body done for You?

Are you co-dependent on them for your salvation or any other man?
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Old 09-10-2021, 07:54 PM
 
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The Good Shepherd who searches for the lost sheep is Jesus.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:15 PM
 
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The Good Shepherd who searches for the lost sheep is Jesus.
It is a shame that so few seem to listen to Him or even know He is there, Jer. I am a perfect example. He had to literally ambush me in my meditation practice!
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Old 09-11-2021, 06:11 AM
 
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What has your human Organization or governing body done for You?

Are you co-dependent on them for your salvation or any other man?
What has your human Organization or governing body done for You?
God's organization is made up of humans as you stated J, if the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses is actually the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses, then they have fed us very well. Do you know of any other religious organization that is fed even close to what we have?

Are you co-dependent on them for your salvation or any other man?[/quote]

There has always been a chain of command since we became a nation sir, so the answer is yes. Do you remember the account of Korah?
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