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Old 09-21-2021, 06:05 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Gladly, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, Great Britain/United States, and finally the eighth.
Those are all places, not Kings.
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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We Christians? Do you mean you Jehovah's Witnesses again?
If you keep this anti Jehovah attitude up, expect a 'ding dong' soon from the men in black.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Gladly, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, Great Britain/United States, and finally the eighth.
Revelation

9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition



Are you talking about this Highway?

You think they are nations and the 8th nation goes into perdition?

How does that work?
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Canada
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If you keep this anti Jehovah attitude up, expect a 'ding dong' soon from the men in black.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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The 8th one recived a head wound and then his wound is healed which is talking about satan, or our evil inclinations.
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:01 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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The 8th one recived a head wound and then his wound is healed which is talking about satan, or our evil inclinations.
The head is where the brain is, and also where the eyes, ears, mouth, nose, are (and internally, invisibly connected to that brain)

In Romans it says that the imagination is where there is a huge problem because the invisible things are to be understood in a certain way


Rom 1:19**Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20**For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21**Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22**Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23**And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24**Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25**Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:47 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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You think WWI was the fulfillment of a Biblical prophecy? Bizarre!
The early JWs (Bible Students?) were waiting for Armageddon in October of 1914. WW1 broke out earlier that year so they say that's the fulfillment of a prophecy. Since Armageddon didn't start that year they claim Jesus took the throne in Heaven instead.

It's all some math calculation involving the fall of Jerusalem. Some people have left the Watchtower after researching it themselves. The Watchtower claims Jerusalem fell in 607BCE instead of the accepted 587BCE. If the Watchtower is wrong about that it throws off their 1914 date so that's why people left over it. I don't know enough to debate it tho.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-587.php
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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If you keep this anti Jehovah attitude up, expect a 'ding dong' soon from the men in black.
The men (and women) in black appear to have boundless patience.
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Old 09-22-2021, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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You failed to address the second half of Jerwade's post. Did you think you could avoid that part by ignoring it?

Here it is:

As you are fully aware, Jehovah's witnesses live the faith, we do not pick and choose which requirements of God that we obey. It is not an option for us. Perhaps like Jerwade you do not consider the Bible God's word, however that is of no consequence to us. It is quite clear on whom we have to disfellowship, and we simply obey it.



I am going to insert a but here as well, the Bible is quite clear on reinstatement and how disfellowshipped ones are to be tried and treated, on this as an organization fall very short on that. Jehovah will correct it in His own due time. Sadly we, including those taking the lead among us are still far from perfection.
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Old 09-22-2021, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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You think WWI was the fulfillment of a Biblical prophecy? Bizarre!



(Matthew 24:6, 7) . . .You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom. . .



Pretty clear to me sir. Was it Jehovah's witnesses who named it WW#1? Even those not among us recognized the distinction of that war vs the ones prior. Why do you suppose you cannot see the significance?


Not to forget as well that Jehovah's witnesses put into print, yes it is still a matter of record since like here things put in writing are eternal, that 1914 would be the year that Jesus would take the crown, and the end of the appointed time of the nations would be fulfilled. Any idea when WW#1 started sir? That was put into print in 1879 by the way.
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