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Jesus has a human body. Because a) He is God and b) His body is in a glorified state, His body does not have the same physical limitations that ours do.
We see this in Scripture when Jesus, after His resurrection, is able to appear in a locked room, alter His appearance, etc.
Jesus has a human body. Because a) He is God and b) His body is in a glorified state, His body does not have the same physical limitations that ours do.
We see this in Scripture when Jesus, after His resurrection, is able to appear in a locked room, alter His appearance, etc.
Do you believe he appeared in more than one room at a time?
This idea that he literally gave them a piece of his body to eat is really quite unscriptural and illogical.
Do you believe he appeared in more than one room at a time?
I don't think we have an example of that in Scripture, so I don't know if He did. But I have no doubt that He could be in multiple places at one time if He wanted to. This is called bilocation, and we have stories of Saints bilocating even while they were alive on earth.
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This idea that he literally gave them a piece of his body to eat is really quite unscriptural and illogical.
We wouldn't say that he gave them a *piece* of His Body. His Body is not divided. Every consecrated Host contains the fullness of Christ; His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity.
Why would we or anybody need an example of 'an Apostle or anyone transubstantiating' when we have in multiple places,
already posted, the teacher Himself, Jesus, giving the teaching, in detail, and the instruction for them to do this?
The only instructions Jesus gave concerning the supper was to eat, drink and do this in remembrance of me. He never told them to perform a ritual like Catholic priests do, where they preside over transubstantiation. That is so not Scriptural. Never did Jesus establish a priesthood separate and apart from all other Christians and authorize them to perform such a ritual. It, like the Roman Catholic priesthood, is from men, not God.
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The only instructions Jesus gave concerning the supper was to eat, drink and do this in remembrance of me. He never told them to perform a ritual like Catholic priests do, where they preside over transubstantiation. That is so not Scriptural. Never did Jesus establish a priesthood separate and apart from all other Christians and authorize them to perform such a ritual. It, like the Roman Catholic priesthood, is from men, not God.
The fact is you have no idea what Jesus said, did, or told them to do other than the minimal scraping of the surface that is recorded in Scripture.
"Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written." John 21:25
Why retain the "glorified corporeal body" euphemism that our ancestors needed because of their terror of Spirits? Jesus has a spiritual body because He, like His Father, is a Spirit. We also will become Spirit upon our death and will have spiritual bodies.
Why retain the "glorified corporeal body" euphemism that our ancestors needed because of their terror of Spirits? Jesus has a spiritual body because He, like His Father, is a Spirit. We also will become Spirit upon our death and will have spiritual bodies.
Jesus isn’t referring to his flesh, he is referring to the general meaning of flesh as in human effort . He is saying the efforts of humans avail nothing, that it is the Spirit that brings salvation.
What you can’t escape is that the very people who heard him, IN PERSON, give these teachings understood him to mean transsubstantiation. You wish to pretend that you understand what Jesus meant 2000 years later from reading an English translation of a Greek Bible , that itself translated Christ’s Aramaic words into Greek, better than the Apostles who heard Jesus with their own ears, AND continued to follow and learn from him after this moment .
Seems kind of arrogant . But it is what Protestantism is based on . “ We know better than the Apostles”
And I suppose you believe that you understand the Apostles words better than Protestants.
Sorry Nate, but neither the Apostles or those who heard them ever knew about a priesthood separate from all other Christians who performed the ritual of transubstantiation. In fact, they never heard the word transubstantiation. It was never used until the eleventh century. Another invention of the RCC.
Our body returns to the earth and our spirit to God. “Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it” (Ecc. 12:7).
Man was made from the dust of the earth (Gen. 2:7). When he dies his body will return to the dust of the earth but the spirit of man made in the image of God (Gen. 1:26-27; Heb. 12:9) will return to God.
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The fact is you have no idea what Jesus said, did, or told them to do other than the minimal scraping of the surface that is recorded in Scripture.
"Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written." John 21:25
John is talking about things Jesus DID, not things He said. If Jesus had wanted a priesthood separate from all other Christians, He’d have said so. But He did not even hint at it. Face it. That would be a pretty big deal. But He said not a word. Building a religion based on words Jesus never said is dangerous. Since He was given all authority on earth and in heaven, one has to wonder where the RCC comes by their authority to set up a priesthood separate and apart from all other Christians. Talk about arrogant!
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