God's love is NOT unconditional (traditions, Gospel, evolve, Jesus)
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God loves you unconditionally!" I challenge anybody to
prove that from the Bible.
There is not a single verse which explicitly states that God
loves mankind (or even a Christian) without conditions.
Some would point to the verse that says "...while we were
yet sinners God loved us" or John 3:16 which says: "For
God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten
Son..." in order to demonstrate God's continuous love.
However, .......
Ok, so you have no security as a believer, I get it. Good luck!
James 2:10 For anyone who should be keeping the whole law, yet should be tripping in one thing, has become liable for all.
So, really, if this is true, you, Harold, may be eternally damned anyway. But that will be righteous for you, I am sure you will accept it. What choice will you have?
Hi wilvan, God's love is not conditional and this is what I was posting to. He loved us when were sinners before we even came to Him. If we come to Him today, we experience His salvation today and the blessings associated with this, but eventually He will reign in all hearts. This is His work and not ours. God bless.
Shana - did you bother to read the article?
HK
Pro 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
God loves you unconditionally!" I challenge anybody to
prove that from the Bible.
There is not a single verse which explicitly states that God
loves mankind (or even a Christian) without conditions.
Some would point to the verse that says "...while we were
yet sinners God loved us" or John 3:16 which says: "For
God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten
Son..." in order to demonstrate God's continuous love.
However, .......
Wow Harold ... The audacity ... You must be a very righteous man indeed.
Quote:
The sinning Christian has been repeatedly told that: "God
loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life!" ...Sadly,
nothing could be farther from the truth, for their end shall
be eternal destruction.
Harold Kupp
Have you ever had someone close to you who was a sinner die? I wonder how that makes you feel. Special? Blessed? Worthy? Lucky? ...
I try to confess my sins and i struggle daily. Here you confess that you do not sin? What really makes me sad is how life has so little meaning to some people ... Even life isn't sacred to them and is most often better discarded ...
Ever go to a funeral and say something like ...
"Poor fred, he was a likable sort, really had a love for god(or life or other people) ... Unfortunately he had an addiction(to whatever sin you will) and is now burning in hell fire for ever." ... ?
Can anybody go with "waste of time"? Honestly, if God does not love unconditionally then he is no better than man. (Actually worse, because most people assume he will endlessly hold people in eternal punishment without mercy. No human I know of, and that is also sane, would do that.) End of story.
Well, then you said it, you said he is no better than man, because quite obviously, he doesn't love us unconditionally.
God is indeed love; the crucifixion proves that. His loving hands are reached out to all those who have not gone too far. However, there are many souls who have already blasphemed against the Holy Ghost in this hour, so God does not love them anymore. God will shut them out of His memory forever, as they have trodden on the Son God.
Proverbs 1
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
We must preach the whole Word of God; many don't look at God in this light, but He has holy hatred too. God despises disobedience and sin, which are of the image of the devil.
LOL God loves less than a human! xD You know, if God is love, and man loves more than God, can God really be love?
How can a God, that IS LOVE, love conditionally? If he stopped loving He would cease to exist.
It is true God is love but he is also holy and he can't live with sin. When you say he loves unconditionally then he must forgive everybody regardless of their character and the choices they made... such as rejecting him and/or breaking his Law.
God loves his own... those who love him and obey his Law. Even the Christians who don't keep all his Commandments will be punished by persecution in the Great Tribulation. In Rev 7:14 John saw the multitude who were beheaded in the GT because their robes were unclean. Only the elect, a small flock, will escape the GT because they keep all the Commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ.
So if God loves all sinners including those who refused to accept JC and repent (turn away from sin)... why is there a prophecy of the Great White Throne Judgment when the murderers, the sorcerers, the idolaters, the liars, etc. are cast into the Lake of Fire to die a second and final death?
It is true God is love but he is also holy and he can't live with sin. When you say he loves unconditionally then he must forgive everybody regardless of their character and the choices they made... such as rejecting him and/or breaking his Law.
God loves his own... those who love him and obey his Law. Even the Christians who don't keep all his Commandments will be punished by persecution in the Great Tribulation. In Rev 7:14 John saw the multitude who were beheaded in the GT because their robes were unclean. Only the elect, a small flock, will escape the GT because they keep all the Commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ.
So if God loves all sinners including those who refused to accept JC and repent (turn away from sin)... why is there a prophecy of the Great White Throne Judgment when the murderers, the sorcerers, the idolaters, the liars, etc. are cast into the Lake of Fire to die a second and final death?
This is so far off the word it is untrue.
First of all i will say without a doubt you are going to be punished if what you say is true ,you do not keep His commandments no matter how much you have tried , not a judgement on you , you are bringing yourself under judgement through your own belief.
If you ever broke one , you broke the all , and if you have broken one this means you need a Savior , not to help you keep you from the Law but to deliver you from the Law which condemns you.
Colossians Chapter 2 14Having cancelled and blotted out and wiped away the handwriting of the note (bond) with its legal decrees and demands which was in force and stood against us (hostile to us). This [note with its regulations, decrees, and demands] He set aside and cleared [j]completely out of our way by nailing it to [His] cross.
What are these commandment should we be keeping , could you be a little more specific ?.
God loves according to His nature, God is love. I do not think there is a scripture that says God is hate.
God is very protective of all that He has created and loves, He will never forgive anyone who would come to steal and kill and destroy what He loves.
God knows who are His children [and we ought to as well] and who are the children of the evil one [and we ought to as well]
Consider the fact that even the very hairs on our head are numbered . If God knows us that intimately what does this really tell us about His nature and character ?.
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