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Old 07-11-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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Why do you suggest I am twisting scripture? I present the plain meaning.


Eph 2:8 says we are saved by grace, not by anything else. Agree or disagree?

Titus 2:11 says this saving grace will come (or has appeared) to all men. Agree or disagree?



My friend, it is not me who is twisting anything. I think it is you who have trouble with the plain meaning of scripture. I haven't heard back from you on the first set of verses I posted... why do you think not all will revere the Lord, when it plainly says so in scripture?


The reason you do not believe these plain scriptures is because these scriptures plainly reveal God's plan to save all men. Study it with an open mind, and God may reveal it to you.

Hope you are well Robin.

You have to accept it, you have to believe on the Son! You cannot bypass the SON and go straight to the throne!
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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You have to accept it, you have to believe on the Son! You cannot bypass the SON and go straight to the throne!
Of course ...

Every tongue will confess that Jesus is lord to the glory of the father ...
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:46 PM
 
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Definition of revere: What is your definition legoman?
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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Of course ...

Every tongue will confess that Jesus is lord to the glory of the father ...
and then........?
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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You have to accept it, you have to believe on the Son! You cannot bypass the SON and go straight to the throne!
Who is saying bypass the Son ?

Acts 4 verse 12

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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1. I believe ALL will bow!
2. I believe those that believe in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.
I agree!

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You have to accept it, you have to believe on the Son! You cannot bypass the SON and go straight to the throne!
I agree!

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What is it you are seeking to find? That you can do nothing and still be saved? You're seeking to find an answer that is going to "stroke" you the right way? When are you going to believe that there is a heaven and a hell and we get to decide if we want to end up in either? And that the deciding is done NOW?
I am just seeking the truth. I am not looking for anything to "stroke" me the right away. I am not looking for a get-out-of-jail-free card. That is what mainstream Churchianity offers. I believed in eternal torment for 30 years, and it all came crashing down for me when I realized they were teaching God's love was not strong or big enough to stop billions from being tortured in fire for eternity.

Do you really think puny man's decision is going to stop almighty God's plan to save all men? Its ok I used to believe that too LOL.

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Hey, that's just me believing ALL that the bible has to say about being saved.
So then you believe that we are saved by grace and not by anything we can do? And you believe God's grace that brings salvation has appeared to all men? And you believe that God will have all men to be saved? And you believe God is the savior of all men? And you believe God will not fail at accomplishing His will and desire to save all men?

Great! That is what I believe too!
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:55 PM
 
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Definition of revere: What is your definition legoman?
I believe revere is refering to a fear out of respect and honor and awe. There used to be an expression that is not used so much any more: "god-fearing man". This is talking about someone who has respect and awe for God.

It is not talking about a terrifying horror-flick type of fear.

Its about honor, respect and awe.
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:56 PM
 
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and then........?
And then there will be no more death and no more tears of sorrow, no more loss or suffering, no more death or hate or war, no more judgment or government ... God will be all in all. Isn't that wonderful?
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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I believe revere is refering to a fear out of respect and honor and awe. There used to be an expression that is not used so much any more: "god-fearing man". This is talking about someone who has respect and awe for God.

It is not talking about a terrifying horror-flick type of fear.

Its about honor, respect and awe.
Good answer
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:01 PM
 
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I agree!

I agree!

I am just seeking the truth. I am not looking for anything to "stroke" me the right away. I am not looking for a get-out-of-jail-free card. That is what mainstream Churchianity offers. I believed in eternal torment for 30 years, and it all came crashing down for me when I realized they were teaching God's love was not strong or big enough to stop billions from being tortured in fire for eternity.

Do you really think puny man's decision is going to stop almighty God's plan to save all men? Its ok I used to believe that too LOL.

So then you believe that we are saved by grace and not by anything we can do? And you believe God's grace that brings salvation has appeared to all men? And you believe that God will have all men to be saved? And you believe God is the savior of all men? And you believe God will not fail at accomplishing His will and desire to save all men?

Great! That is what I believe too!

I BELIEVE that GOD is JUST and we all get our JUST reward, be it heaven or hell!

I believe that He is a WONDER to behold!

Definition of revere: is the fear of the Lord. In summary, we are to follow, love, serve and obey Him! True?

But alas, do we all? Honestly answer that question. Do we all?
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