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Old 02-02-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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According to C-D, the difference is 1.2%. Hardly statistically significant. Furthermore, I'd bet a lot of the lower-level administrative workers in state government don't have a bachelor's degree. Does that make them blue collar?

As for unemployment rates, I guess it all comes down to interpretation. But, no, I hardly see a .6% difference between roughly equivalent metros to be statistically significant.
Yes, CD, the site full of dependable sources. Because I lived by the Indy metro pretty much the majority of my life, and like I stated earlier, have visited Cincy countless times, not only is Cincinnati more-than-likely more white collar, it certainly feels a hell of a lot more white collar too.

Well, once again, comparing the rates of 7.8% and 8.4%, .6% seems like a pretty good distance between these "two equivalent" metro areas. If it was at 30%, then yes, I could see why there wasn't that big of a differance. There are still 7 metro areas between Columbus and Indianapolis on this list I am about to post, and this is large metro areas; Not including the many other "smaller" ones.

Unemployment Rates for Large Metropolitan Areas

 
Old 02-02-2011, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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For me it would be:

Columbus>>Indy>>>>Cincinnati

I've been in Cincy my whole life and honestly find the other two superior to Cincinnati in many ways.
 
Old 02-02-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Yes, CD, the site full of dependable sources. Because I lived by the Indy metro pretty much the majority of my life, and like I stated earlier, have visited Cincy countless times, not only is Cincinnati more-than-likely more white collar, it certainly feels a hell of a lot more white collar too.
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-qr_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_DP3YR2&-geo_id=16000US1836003&-gc_url=&-ds_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_&-_lang=en

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-qr_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_DP3YR2&-geo_id=16000US1836003&-gc_url=&-ds_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_&-_lang=en

There you have it. According to the Census Bureau, the difference is a whopping 1.5%. And Indy has a slightly higher percentage of residents with at least a high school education. But, hey, when you can't prove your point with empirical data, by all means go with "how it feels."

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Well, once again, comparing the rates of 7.8% and 8.4%, .6% seems like a pretty good distance between these "two equivalent" metro areas. If it was at 30%, then yes, I could see why there wasn't that big of a differance.
You really have me scratching my head here. You see 0.6% as significant, but 30% wouldn't be significant?
 
Old 02-03-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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i believe what he's trying to say is that with numbers between 5-10, 0.6 makes a bigger difference than if the numbers were between 25-30. 0.6 isn't as influential anymore.
 
Old 02-03-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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i believe what he's trying to say is that with numbers between 5-10, 0.6 makes a bigger difference than if the numbers were between 25-30. 0.6 isn't as influential anymore.
That could be, but I maintain my position. Is there a difference in Columbus' favor? Of course. Is it significant? No.
 
Old 02-03-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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If you like plastic chains, pancake-flat sprawl, uninteresting neighborhoods and an overall generic vibe, you absolutely can't go wrong with Indianapolis.

Otherwise, Cincinnati > Columbus, Ohio by miles and miles. Columbus is OSU and if you live there, make peace with that fact
 
Old 02-03-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I just don't get what people see in Indy. It's ok, but not on the level of Cincy when it comes to urban characteristics. Columbus is somewhere in between.
 
Old 02-04-2011, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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If you like plastic chains, pancake-flat sprawl, uninteresting neighborhoods and an overall generic vibe, you absolutely can't go wrong with Indianapolis.
While Indianapolis is never going to look like a Chicago or Cincinnati at its core, to suggest the city is nothing but sprawl and has no neighborhoods is to expose yourself as someone who has not spent much time here.
 
Old 02-06-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-qr_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_DP3YR2&-geo_id=16000US1836003&-gc_url=&-ds_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_&-_lang=en

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-qr_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_DP3YR2&-geo_id=16000US1836003&-gc_url=&-ds_name=ACS_2008_3YR_G00_&-_lang=en

There you have it. According to the Census Bureau, the difference is a whopping 1.5%. And Indy has a slightly higher percentage of residents with at least a high school education. But, hey, when you can't prove your point with empirical data, by all means go with "how it feels."



You really have me scratching my head here. You see 0.6% as significant, but 30% wouldn't be significant?
You're only taking out of it what you want. It is significant when it comes to that low of a percentage rate. How many times do I have to say it? If it was in the 30% rage, that kind of a differance wouldn't be a big deal because the number is so high.

And, it is not how it feels, Cincinnati is just more white collar than Indianapolis, enough said.
 
Old 02-06-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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If you like plastic chains, pancake-flat sprawl, uninteresting neighborhoods and an overall generic vibe, you absolutely can't go wrong with Indianapolis.

Otherwise, Cincinnati > Columbus, Ohio by miles and miles. Columbus is OSU and if you live there, make peace with that fact
OSU was Columbus 20 years ago. Now, a lot could be said to argue against that. And even so, I wouldn't really think OSU was a negative. It has a great medical center, brings in a lot of money, is a major employer, and is helping to improve the entire area around campus. Other cities would kill for something like that. That said, it is by far not the only game in town. We still have Battelle, the Defense Supply Center, The Limited (Abercrombie, Victoria's Secret, etc) Nationwide, Wendy's (even though it was sold, still has its headquarters here), etc.
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