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First off, what does my current location (I was born a New Yorker) have to do with the knowledge I have? You don't know me nor know the places I have lived/visited thank you very much.
The same was insinuated of me (by another poster). Perhaps we give each other a break then.
First off, what does my current location (I was born a New Yorker) have to do with the knowledge I have? You don't know me nor know the places I have lived/visited thank you very much.
Secondly, I wasn't suggesting that San Francisco's culture is a replica of LAs. It obviously has it's own culture specific to itself, just like any other city. But in terms of similarity, since LA and San Francisco are both in California, they are bound to have way more in common. I'm just not seeing this massive similarity to NYC culture some people are talking about in SF. Hell, they don't even have any Dunkin Donuts.
What are you talking about? San Franciscans are known for being loud, fast talking, no nonsense, say it like it is types! Youse a Dodger fan? FUHGEDDABOUTIT! You sound so Bridge and Tunnel!
Speaking of which, the Giants are from Manhattan and there are NY Giants championships flags flying at At&t park. If that doesn't scream West Coast Manhattan not sure what else you people need as proof!
What are you talking about? San Franciscans are known for being loud, fast talking, no nonsense, say it like it is types! Youse a Dodger fan? FUHGEDDABOUTIT! You sound so Bridge and Tunnel!
I think it must be the density of elite (or even "a-non" ones) minds that has me on the outside looking in to understand the overall perspective though oddly understood you reference
Why would you want to be the Manhattan of the Westcoast? For the life of me, I just can't understand why a city as unique as SF, would want to limit it's cultural distinction to "Manhattan of The Westcoast". Why do you wish to be New York so bad? Why not embrace being distinctly Californian?
I think it must be the density of elite (or even "a-non" ones) minds that has me on the outside looking in to understand the overall perspective though oddly understood you reference
A lot of cities are "similar" on C-D when using broadstrokes.
-Manhattan and SF are liberal
-Manhattan and SF are highly educated
-Manhattan and SF are walkable
-Manhattan and SF are elitist
-Manhattan and SF are transit-oriented
-Manhattan and SF both have Little Italies
-Manhattan and SF have finance
-Manhattan and SF are geographically small
-Manhattan and SF are surrounded by water and connected by bridges
You could go on and on with more broad-based similarities. But most people who've experienced both know they are very different places. SF can have all of those things in common with Manhattan yet still not feel much like it (and in fact still feel more similar to LA).
While Manhattan is an urban wonder, SF has the best combo of urban and natural beauty a US city can offer. If I was from SF I'd be pissed about other San Franciscans trying to limit us to "Manhattan of the Westcoast". SF is too geographically distinct from Manhattan. I'd be more prideful in my Californian roots. SF is distinctly Californian. You really couldn't mistake SF for a city in any other state. Even though Palms aren't as prevalent in SF as they are in LA, you still have districts in SF with palm lined streets. You'll find Dates, and Washingtonias and the like. There are also brown rolling hills all around from what I've seen. A descent pan-Asian, Pacific Islander, and Mexican population also. On that note, it seems like the minorities in SF and the Bay have a more statewide Westcoast pride, and a pride in SF being a part of the greater statewide California community. While the "We have an eastcoast vibe", "We're the Manhattan of the West" claim seems to be something more popular with the Whites in SF.
Los Angeles and San Francisco both have more strongly rooted Asian cultures than Manhattan. In 1930, 0.5% of Manhattan residents were classified as "Indian, Chinese or Japanese." 2.0% of Los Angeles County residents were classified as such (probably higher in the city) and 4.37% were in San Francisco.
While the "We have an eastcoast vibe", "We're the Manhattan of the West" claim seems to be something more popular with the Whites in SF.
This is not my understanding at all. People across the board from SF and the Bay Area (Whites and minorities) are very proud of the fact they are part of California and distinctly West Coast. In fact, I've heard many locals say that they view the Bay Area as the "real California" since it was the original developed area and LA has a more superficial, less truly Californian vibe. Not saying I necessarily agree, but this idea that White people from the Bay Area identify more with NYC is nonsense.
I think the main argument anonelitist is trying to make is that - strictly in terms of urban layout and interface - SF has more in common with NYC than LA. And I would agree with that. However, if the argument is that there is more of a cultural similarity or that the topography, vegetation, attitude, etc. are more similar, obviously that's completely wrong. SF and LA are way more similar in those regards. But in urban layout and interface it is more similar to Manhattan.
Los Angeles and San Francisco both have more strongly rooted Asian cultures than Manhattan. In 1930, 0.5% of Manhattan residents were classified as "Indian, Chinese or Japanese." 2.0% of Los Angeles County residents were classified as such (probably higher in the city) and 4.37% were in San Francisco.
The Bay Area is also about 25% Mexican - that number is way lower in NYC.
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