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Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Originally Posted by Scott Summers
Me personally, I have no problem with transplants no matter what region they came from. Most of the people I went to school with were transplants, some of my best friends were from other Southern cities, up North(east), and the Midwest.
I'm the kid of transplants (there are a lot of other 1st gen Atlantans here) and I liked growing up in Atlanta...no telling what my mindset would've been on here if I grew up in Orlando (is FLA Southern?), Western NY (?), or Cincinnati (there's nothing Southern about us?).
The culture? I don't know, the boom started to take off in the 70s ( ATL metro was around 1.5 million) and I was born in 86 so I'm pretty much used to seeing people from all over. I also like hearing about a person's experiences from their previous home (whether it be someplace in NC, PA, OH, or CAit's all interesting). I haven't experienced the old Atlanta but I like hearing the natives talk about time too.
Another thing, with all of the people moving in/out/back again, don't be surprised to see or hear or regional mixes:
West/Mid-Atlantic, FLA/Midwest, Pac NW/NEast, etc (I knew of a lot of people whose parents came from different parts of the country) and I think that puts them at a more objective mindset on things (in the real world of course).
Interesting...thanks! I think that's why cities (no matter the region), once they become large enough, start to separate from their respective states and develop a culture all of their own that can sometimes be quite different than the surrounding area. I even notice that here (MN).
Does anyone else besides me find this person completely obnoxious? He keeps twisting my words, he doesn't read my sources when I present facts. If I present opinions he whines and moans about it if he doesn't like it. He works for the airline industry (or did) and can't add anything more to my question than hurling insults. I may ask some edgy questions or touch a nerve, but I'm usually interested in gathering info, not winning a war.
For the record:
I have given Atlanta credit for its amazing growth, its jobs/economic market, its collegiate education system, its rich African American history and diversity being greater than MN's, the aquarium being better than ours, and so on. I've given plenty of credit to Atlanta and Georgia.
I said the 2 million in population growth had LESS TO DO with education and more to do with empty-nesters and young urban professionals -- a sunblet phenomenon that MN doesn't experience. I never EVER said NOBODY ever moved to Atlanta for education. I don't speak in absolutes for this exact reason.
Rcsteiner said MN schools are better, but that there were a handful of GA schools that could compete with MN. I didn't know that, but that wasn't even my point, my point was that Georgia is NOT reknown for its schools, while MN is.
You work for the airline industry and you can't even admit that the government approved the merger in October, 2008 and some employees already began the move to Georgia consequently. It seems like many more likely came in 2009 and 2010, but I said that the merger had SOME relevance in the MN to GA phenomenon. Then I asked you what you thought it was and you haven't answered, only whined.
Every time you get embarrassed you LOL or ROFLMAO or some other "Twitter Talk" language than teenagers use.
Give it a rest, already. And your little innocent act isn't working.
Anyone that sprinkles their responses when challenged with terms like "punks," "getting on your knees," paper-thin negative references to my sexuality, etc. has ZERO credibility at this point. How else to explain that hardly anyone (with the unfortunate exception of myself) even responds to you any longer?
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder, and it shows.
Me personally, I have no problem with transplants no matter what region they came from. Most of the people I went to school with were transplants, some of my best friends were from other Southern cities, up North(east), and the Midwest.
This is the prevailing attitude I've experienced from younger South residents. It's mainly the older generation that makes it a "north vs. south" thing.
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I'm the kid of transplants (there are a lot of other 1st gen Atlantans here) and I liked growing up in Atlanta...no telling what my mindset would've been on here if I grew up in Orlando (is FLA Southern?), Western NY (?), or Cincinnati (there's nothing Southern about us?).
I was also born in Georgia (rural GA then, suburban Atlanta now) the kid of "transplants" from the Lower Midwest. My entire family is from the Midwest, and I spent a lot of time in the Midwest as a child, and I live in the Midwest now. Unlike you, I really didn't appreciate growing up in the Atlanta area (understatement, I HATED Atlanta), a decision I regret.
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The culture? I don't know, the boom started to take off in the 70s ( ATL metro was around 1.5 million) and I was born in 86 so I'm pretty much used to seeing people from all over. I also like hearing about a person's experiences from their previous home (whether it be someplace in NC, PA, OH, or CAit's all interesting). I haven't experienced the old Atlanta but I like hearing the natives talk about time too.
I was also born in 1986. Most of my friends growing up were Midwesterners, born in the Midwest (Ohio, Minnesota, Illinois). I enjoyed hearing about the experiences -- I've lived the experiences because my family's from the Midwest and I've lived in the Midwest for some time.
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Another thing, with all of the people moving in/out/back again, don't be surprised to see or hear or regional mixes:
West/Mid-Atlantic, FLA/Midwest, Pac NW/NEast, etc (I knew of a lot of people whose parents came from different parts of the country) and I think that puts them at a more objective mindset on things (in the real world of course).
Exactly. My family is a testament to this. We started out in two Midwestern states, and now live all over the country. Although I admit that my past perspectives on this board have been less than objective when it comes to Atlanta (I'm sorry), I'm learning to step back and appreciate my background.
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Originally Posted by johnatl
Give it a rest, already. And your little innocent act isn't working.
Anyone that sprinkles their responses when challenged with terms like "punks," "getting on your knees," paper-thin negative references to my sexuality, etc. has ZERO credibility at this point. How else to explain that hardly anyone (with the unfortunate exception of myself) even responds to you any longer?
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder, and it shows.
ATL posters never quit, so I figure they are just busy or they agree and don't want to say anything in public.
.....more like a pain in the a$$ than a chip on my shoulder
ATL posters never quit, so I figure they are just busy or they agree and don't want to say anything in public.
.....more like a pain in the a$$ than a chip on my shoulder
Please give it a rest. Notice all the other Minnesota posters have given it up. Let the conversation evolve -- you're a great poster, I'd hate to see the mods crack down on you.
Please give it a rest. Notice all the other Minnesota posters have given it up. Let the conversation evolve -- you're a great poster, I'd hate to see the mods crack down on you.
This is the prevailing attitude I've experienced from younger South residents. It's mainly the older generation that makes it a "north vs. south" thing.
I don't care for the North/South thing either because it's tasteless and gets ugly real quick. Me, I have 2 reasons why I don't get involved in it: I didn't partake in it and I have Mid-Westerners on my dad's side and Northeasterners on my mom's side...I can't hate family.
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Originally Posted by kazoopilot
I was also born in Georgia (rural GA then, suburban Atlanta now) the kid of "transplants" from the Lower Midwest. My entire family is from the Midwest, and I spent a lot of time in the Midwest as a child, and I live in the Midwest now. Unlike you, I really didn't appreciate growing up in the Atlanta area (understatement, I HATED Atlanta), a decision I regret.
No big deal, I don't have any ties to Appalachia but I used to have a bad view towards them when I was up there but I'm past that.
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Originally Posted by kazoopilot
I was also born in 1986. Most of my friends growing up were Midwesterners, born in the Midwest (Ohio, Minnesota, Illinois). I enjoyed hearing about the experiences -- I've lived the experiences because my family's from the Midwest and I've lived in the Midwest for some time.
With me, I knew/know people who had parents who came from Detroit, NY, Philly, NJ, Chicago, etc, but the kids I grew up with always saw themselves as Atlantans but there were some things that we didn't buy into. I don't want to sound as if I'm trying to distance myself from the South but most people who had parents who grew aren't from here tended to familiarize themselves with the hometown of their parents. (A friend that I grew up with would always go to NJ on vacations, another would always go to Detroit, another would go to Boston/Fla, me Cincinnati/ORL/Rochester. I have more examples but you get the idea). That's why an Atlantan would sort of get defensive when someone try to push a Southern stereotype on them: It's like, "This is my background, but you think/insist on me being like this?"
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Originally Posted by kazoopilot
Exactly. My family is a testament to this. We started out in two Midwestern states, and now live all over the country. Although I admit that my past perspectives on this board have been less than objective when it comes to Atlanta (I'm sorry), I'm learning to step back and appreciate my background.
That's cool, this world is pretty much built on Bias, BS, and falsehoods, so it's on us to see what's real and what's fake. None of us are ever too old to learn. Of course there will be things that just don't click with us but at least look at the whole picture of things, it seems as if you're headed that way.
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Originally Posted by west336
What do Atlantans think of all of the transplants its seen in the past two decades? Does it seem like it helps or hurts your culture, lifestyle, etc.? I know Minnesotans have kind of a rude demeanor towards transplants, but it's mainly the older folks who are use to a completely different state that they grew up in.
Atlanta has a fairly large percentage of transplants already, so I suspect it's more open to others. 100,000 a year for the past 30 years kinda makes them a regular occurrence, ya know?
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