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A "dominant" state is one that culturally influences neighboring states without being influenced much itself. A "submissive" state is one that is culturally influenced by neighboring states without influence much itself. Which states do you consider dominant, and which states do you consider submissive? The following lists are just my perception, so take it for what it's worth.
Dominant states
- California (influences Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and Washington)
- Georgia (influences Alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina)
- Illinois (influences Indiana, Iowa and Wisconsin)
- Massachusetts (influences Connecticut, New Hampshire and Rhode Island)
- Michigan (influences Indiana and Ohio)
- Minnesota (influences North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin)
- New York (influences Connecticut and New Jersey)
- North Carolina (influences South Carolina and Virginia)
- Pennsylvania (influences New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland and West Virginia)
- Texas (influences Arkansas, Louisiana and Oklahoma)
- Utah (influences Idaho and Arizona)
- Washington (influences Idaho and Oregon)
Submissive states
- Arkansas (influenced by Louisiana and Texas)
- Connecticut (influenced by Massachusetts and New York)
- Delaware (influenced by Maryland and Pennsylvania)
- Idaho (influenced by Washington and Utah)
- Iowa (influenced by Illinois and Minnesota)
- Mississippi (influenced by Alabama and Louisiana)
- New Jersey (influenced by New York and Pennsylvania)
- New Mexico (influenced by Arizona and Texas)
- Oregon (influenced by California and Washington)
- South Carolina (influenced by Georgia and North Carolina)
- West Virginia (influenced by Pennsylvania and Virginia) - Wisconsin (influenced by Illinois and Minnesota)
States that are on neither list likely influence some states while being influenced by others.
I would take issue with this, somewhat. Wisconsin is quite a bit smaller than Minnesota, with a larger population. Wisconsin doesn't have all of it's eggs in one basket - it has more big cities than Minnesota does. I would agree that the Milwaukee metro is probably influenced by Chicago (not Illinois), but the rest of the state can stand on it's own.
I would agree that probably the western border area of Wisconsin (and ONLY this area), is probably influenced by the Twin Cities, but central, northern, and eastern Wisconsin can stand on their own. Minnesota has nothing to do with those parts of Wisconsin, nor does Illinois (except for the tourists).
Wisconsin has traditions within it's borders that are all Wisconsin.
Submissive or not, NJ has the 7th highest GDP in the nation- That says a lot being the 11th most populated and 4th smallest (land wise) state.
NJ is to NYC what Steadman is to Oprah.
Sure she's in millions of living rooms daily, but he's rared back at home in his lazy-boy patiently waiting on her stacks wearing a 'kiss the cook' apron.
A "dominant" state is one that culturally influences neighboring states without being influenced much itself. A "submissive" state is one that is culturally influenced by neighboring states without influence much itself. Which states do you consider dominant, and which states do you consider submissive? The following lists are just my perception, so take it for what it's worth.
Dominant states
- California (influences Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and Washington)
- Georgia (influences Alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina)
- Illinois (influences Indiana, Iowa and Wisconsin)
- Massachusetts (influences Connecticut, New Hampshire and Rhode Island) - Michigan (influences Indiana and Ohio)
- Minnesota (influences North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin)
- New York (influences Connecticut and New Jersey)
- North Carolina (influences South Carolina and Virginia)
- Pennsylvania (influences New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland and West Virginia)
- Texas (influences Arkansas, Louisiana and Oklahoma) - Utah (influences Idaho and Arizona)
- Washington (influences Idaho and Oregon)
I'm not sure how Michigan influences Ohio or Utah influences Arizona.
Dominant states is really a misnomer; it's really about dominant or large metros. For instance, NC doesn't "dominate" SC as it was listed in the initial post. Rather, Charlotte has an influence on SC (it doesn't dominate it) but no other city in NC really influences SC. On the other hand, Myrtle Beach and Charleston attract tons of NC'ers.
Dominant states is really a misnomer; it's really about dominant or large metros. For instance, NC doesn't "dominate" SC as it was listed in the initial post. Rather, Charlotte has an influence on SC (it doesn't dominate it) but no other city in NC really influences SC. On the other hand, Myrtle Beach and Charleston attract tons of NC'ers.
I have to agree.
NY-NJ and NJ-PA relationships are specific only to the two largest cities of those particular states. You remove that equation and the large remaining swaths of those states are not at all relevant to NJ.
Utah has a "standing army" in all 50 states and most nations. LOL
The state is influential well beyond its borders.
New York, USA 76,811
Missouri, USA 65,122
LDS started in upstate New York and was located in Missouri for awhile. I know Missouri is the headquarters for several non-LDS Mormon denominations with the "Community of Christ, formerly RLDS" being the main one.
Granted the LDS of those states might still count as "Utah influenced" but I think in Missouri's case in particular it might be a bit different.
Sure she's in millions of living rooms daily, but he's rared back at home in his lazy-boy patiently waiting on her stacks wearing a 'kiss the cook' apron.
Oprah's the man , and Steadman is......
Oh Georgia............... You're Georgia. That's all there really is to say.
Dominant states is really a misnomer; it's really about dominant or large metros. For instance, NC doesn't "dominate" SC as it was listed in the initial post. Rather, Charlotte has an influence on SC (it doesn't dominate it) but no other city in NC really influences SC. On the other hand, Myrtle Beach and Charleston attract tons of NC'ers.
There are some exceptions to that rule. Southwestern Louisiana and the southeastern fringes of Texas' culture is mainly centered around rural towns with the largest two MSA's having populations of about 250,000 and 190,000. This mostly rural area has enough cultural influence to add to the cultural element of Houston. At the same time Baton Rouge sits right on the border of where Cajun southwest Louisiana and Creole southeast Louisiana (New Orleans) meet and barely gets any influence from either one. Metro B.R. remains an island to itself and is dispised by the rest of S. Louisiana (just read the LA forum) and even with just under 800,000 people has little non-political influence outside of its immediate area.
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Originally Posted by TexasReb
Yeah, but in looking at a map as concerns the shape of Louisiana, it looks like the northern half is "dominant" and the southern half is "submissive."
Uh oh...only a warped mind like mine could come up with such sicko-sexual analogies!
Just kiddin' my friend, I see what you are saying and it makes very good sense.
Well politically South LA f***s North LA on daily basis .
omg the inuendo in this thread is outta control. Paul you see what you started?
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, and Steadman is......
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