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Well I am just going to call someone out if they are going to put down a city. I really do not know what your intentions were, but come on, do some research. Just because a place is declining in population doesn't mean it is dead or dying. Just compare the metro area unemployment rates (not that this is a full indicator of how a region is doing) Pittsburgh at 6.8% vs Jacksonville at 10%. That's quite a differance.
Also, you mention neighborhoods. I assume you are talking about St. Augustine. Yes, St. Augustine is a great town. I had to live two years in Florida and about went crazy. I lived in the Tampa area, and know all of Florida's metro areas really well. But when you want to mention neighborhoods, Jacksonville can't even scratch the surface on Pittsburgh's neighborhoods. So not only does Pittsburgh have your city core beat, they have your neighborhoods beat by far. Do a little research on Pittsburgh, you'll be suprised.
Well I am just going to call someone out if they are going to put down a city. I really do not know what your intentions were, but come on, do some research. Just because a place is declining in population doesn't mean it is dead or dying. Just compare the metro area unemployment rates (not that this is a full indicator of how a region is doing) Pittsburgh at 6.8% vs Jacksonville at 10%. That's quite a differance.
Also, you mention neighborhoods. I assume you are talking about St. Augustine. Yes, St. Augustine is a great town. I had to live two years in Florida and about went crazy. I lived in the Tampa area, and know all of Florida's metro areas really well. But when you want to mention neighborhoods, Jacksonville can't even scratch the surface on Pittsburgh's neighborhoods. So not only does Pittsburgh have your city core beat, they have your neighborhoods beat by far. Do a little research on Pittsburgh, you'll be suprised.
Actually, Jacksonville proper has a lot of pretty scenic neighborhoods. See this thread:
Not saying Pittsburgh doesn't have nice neighborhoods itself, but Jacksonville is very surprising in terms of desirability. But it's hard to compare the two, as they are very different types of cities.
Quintessential sprawling Sun Belt city; developed too quickly to acquire much of a distinct character?
Other than the nicer weather and the beaches, How is it any different then Charlotte, Houston, Dallas, tampa(ok it might have a little better weather), or any other city like that. And how could Atlanta be any better? My point is all I'm seeing is Jacksonville on these 'worst' lists.
Other than the nicer weather and the beaches, How is it any different then Charlotte, Houston, Dallas, tampa(ok it might have a little better weather), or any other city like that. And how could Atlanta be any better? My point is all I'm seeing is Jacksonville on these 'worst' lists.
Tampa wasn't my cup of tea. I haven't been to Charlotte, Houston, or Atlanta, but I probably wouldn't be too thrilled with either of them (except maybe Atlanta). I don't like "new" cities in general.
boston - cold/racist
san diego - vanilla/
atlanta - too car oriented
miami - hot/racist
sf - the weather - meh - if i wanted that weather i'd stay in the northeast
What is this crap about D.C. not being Northeast? Since when did the South claim D.C?
Also, I've NEVER heard somebody knock old architecture before like that. Truly amazing! Art Decco not your favorite? More of a Brutalist type? Sorry, you are entitled to your opinion, of course, but that one particularly threw me for a loop. I personally LOVE buildings like the Flat Iron in NYC or the Wrigley Bldg in Chicago!
I say old architecture and you autimatically think im refering to those fancy downtown famous skyscrappers built during the art decco era, Wow. Perhaps you didn't stop to think that just maybe I was refering to the spawl of old living quarters that you find spread out through brooklyn the bronx, south side of chicago around cottage grove way down south, like at streets numbering in the 40's and 50's. Or perhaps the old areas of st louis in my dads old neigborhood. Believe its named gunlock, or where my fam used to live along rosevelt on the east sides of chicago, super tight ancient old brick crumbling buildings. Some very pretty, about half, should be knocked down. Was I refering to the most beautifull examples of art decco buildings in the country? Hell no. One of my favorite buildings in the sunbelt city of houston is the eperson building built like in the 20's I love well kept art decco buildings. Its the small crumbling ones I don't like.
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