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Alright guys, I enjoy football as much as the next guy, but I was only using the AFCN title as an easy way to group these four cities. I think it would be great if we could compare each of the cities together on things other than football, like nightlife, parks, and transit.
My fault. I honestly don't know much about the other cities. All I know is that the Ravens are gonna beat the steelers next week. Honestly, I love when the ravens play the steelers. That is the best rivalry in sports IMO. Also, I can talk the most trash then. Lol
Really? My list would be as follows reasons after rank:
1. Baltimore - was around during the revolution, home to Edgar Allen Poe, 10th largest city at its peak and has been active in the US in all parts of history. Also had a large and early African American community that included Frederick Douglas. Parts of the city are from Colonial times even.
2. Cincinnati - Was the 4th largest US city at its peak (early on), largest city in the midwest until St. Louis (briefly) then Chicago took over, home to Harriet Beacher Stowe, the Tafts, the largest community of German Americans in the United States.
3. Pittsburgh - Older river town, had less than half Cincy's pop during that era (about 1840-1870), grew post Civil War in the 2nd industrial revolution fueled by its location between the coal mines of the Appalachians and between industrial centers of Chicago and New York City. Home to Andy Worhol and Carnegie.
5. Cleveland - massive industrial juggarnaught in the early to mid 20th century, peaked as the 10th largest city in the US.
Really? My list would be as follows reasons after rank:
1. Baltimore - was around during the revolution, home to Edgar Allen Poe, 10th largest city at its peak and has been active in the US in all parts of history. Also had a large and early African American community that included Frederick Douglas. Parts of the city are from Colonial times even.
2. Cincinnati - Was the 4th largest US city at its peak (early on), largest city in the midwest until St. Louis (briefly) then Chicago took over, home to Harriet Beacher Stowe, the Tafts, the largest community of German Americans in the United States.
3. Pittsburgh - Older river town, had less than half Cincy's pop during that era (about 1840-1870), grew post Civil War in the 2nd industrial revolution fueled by its location between the coal mines of the Appalachians and between industrial centers of Chicago and New York City. Home to Andy Worhol and Carnegie.
5. Cleveland - massive industrial juggarnaught in the early to mid 20th century, peaked as the 10th largest city in the US.
You are missing a lot of Pittsburgh history. Pittsburgh was founded prior to Cincinnati. Pittsburgh was the original "Gateway to the West" ( Lewis and Clark began their expedition in Pittsburgh). Pittsburgh was fought over in the French and Indian War. Pittsburgh was an industrial player prior to the Civil War- An 1857 article provided a snapshot of the Iron City:[26]
939 factories in Pittsburgh and Allegheny City
employing more than 10K workers
producing almost $12M in goods
using 400 steam engines
Total coal consumed — 22M bushels
Total iron consumed — 127K tons
In steam tonnage, third busiest port in the nation, surpassed only by New York City and New Orleans. (from Wikipedia).
By 1911, Pittsburgh had grown into an industrial and commercial powerhouse:[19]
Nexus of a vast railway system, with freight yards capable of handling 60K cars
27.2 miles (43.8 km) of harbor
Yearly river traffic in excess of 9M tons
Value of factory products more than $211M (with Allegheny City)
Allegheny county produced, as percentage of national output, about:
World War II had Pittsburgh producing 95 million tons of steel. Critical for the Allies.
Pittsburgh has the largest Croatian community in America.
Pittsburgh is also part of the Union history of America.
Pittsburgh was also an important city for African American culture. Pittsburgh had a thriving jazz scene and was home to 2 of the greatest Negro League teams, the Homestead Gray and the Pittsburgh Crawfords. The National Negro Opera Company was founded in Pittsburgh.
Really? My list would be as follows reasons after rank:
1. Baltimore - was around during the revolution, home to Edgar Allen Poe, 10th largest city at its peak and has been active in the US in all parts of history. Also had a large and early African American community that included Frederick Douglas. Parts of the city are from Colonial times even.
2. Cincinnati - Was the 4th largest US city at its peak (early on), largest city in the midwest until St. Louis (briefly) then Chicago took over, home to Harriet Beacher Stowe, the Tafts, the largest community of German Americans in the United States.
3. Pittsburgh - Older river town, had less than half Cincy's pop during that era (about 1840-1870), grew post Civil War in the 2nd industrial revolution fueled by its location between the coal mines of the Appalachians and between industrial centers of Chicago and New York City. Home to Andy Worhol and Carnegie.
5. Cleveland - massive industrial juggarnaught in the early to mid 20th century, peaked as the 10th largest city in the US.
Yeah in the 1800s Baltimore was right up there with NYC and Philly in terms of population. Now in the 1950s when Baltimore City hit its peak popultion of 980,000 residents we were probabaly around 10th largest city in the country. Of the four cities I think Baltimore metro is currently the largest, with Cleveland being close if I'm not mistaken.
The Pittsburgh Metropolitan Statistical Area (also called Greater Pittsburgh), as defined by the United States Census Bureau, is an area consisting of seven counties in Western Pennsylvania, anchored by the city of Pittsburgh. As of the 2010 census, the MSA had a population of 2,356,285[1] and has a land area of 5,343 sq. miles (5,706 with Lawrence County included in the Combined Statistical Area).
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