North America's largest downtown business districts by office space, according to Colliers (cost, Los Angeles)

[Psykomonkee]

If only there wasn't that pesky height limit for construction in the city, DC would have a monster of a skyline!!!

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Psykomonkee

NON Government work in DC...

Not quite.

The companies bolded below are government sponsored enterprises or are huge recipients of major federal contracts.

Fannie Mae
Freddie Mac
Sallie Mae
General Dynamics
Lockheed Martin
SAIC (alone employs over 22,000 employees in DC)
Danaher Corp.
CSC
Coventry Health Care
NII Holdings
Booz Allen Hamilton
Computer Sciences is CSC
AES
WR Grace & Co.
WGL Holdings Inc.
BET
Washington Post
USA Today
National Geographic
Discovery Channel

[iNviNciBL3]

Can someone please explain whats considered Midtown South?

[HtownLove]

According to Grubb Ellis this is the top:

1. Midtown Manhattan- 213,818,31
2. CBD Chicago- 130,317,15
3. CBD DC- 107,337,31
4. DT Manhattan- 76,000,76
5. MT S Manhattan- 74,577,47
6. CBD Boston- 64,407,32
7. CBD SF- 45,176,67
8. CBD Philadelphia- 44,261,375
9. CBD Houston- 43,214,941
10. CBD LA- 32,159,55
11. Minneapolis- 28,299,243 (The report lists St P separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
12. Pittsburgh- 27,841,801 (they included fringe areas)
13. CBD Dallas- 26,890,00 (The report lists FW separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
14. Denver- 26,493,570
15. Cleveland- 21,969,702
16. Portland- 19,779,070
17. CBD Atlanta- 17,288,368
18. Phoenix- 15,779,714
19. Indianapolis- 14,709,070
20. Detroit- 13,187,372
21. Miami- 13,133,897
22. Milwaukee- 12,439,588
23. Columbus- 12,289,442
24. Cincinnati- 11,919,525
25. San Diego- 11,393,918
26. St Paul- 10,059,518
27. Fort Worth- 9,956,82
28. Austin- 8,490,93
29. San Jose- 8,355,347

Edit: Forgot Seattle but too lazy to add it in:


Denny Regrade 8,458,978
Financial District 23,302,266
Lake Union 5,670,077 747,235
Pioneer Square 4,790,030
Queen Anne 3,049,376

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Not quite.

The companies bolded below are government sponsored enterprises or are huge recipients of major federal contracts.

Guess you didn't care to read my prior post...

Government sponsored and holding federal contracts are NOT synonymous with being a government business...

That's like calling Lockheed government... Lockheed is not government. Just holds government contracts and gets government sponsorship. Government IS the client and the business of the town. But Private business are still private business whether their client is the government or not...

*CSC/Comp Science... okay. Mistake. Minus 1.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

According to Grubb Ellis this is the top:

1. Midtown Manhattan- 213,818,31
2. CBD Chicago- 130,317,15
3. CBD DC- 107,337,31
4. DT Manhattan- 76,000,76
5. MT S Manhattan- 74,577,47
6. CBD Boston- 64,407,32
7. CBD SF- 45,176,67
8. CBD Philadelphia- 44,261,375
9. CBD Houston- 43,214,941
10. CBD LA- 32,159,55
11. Minneapolis- 28,299,243 (The report lists St P separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
12. Pittsburgh- 27,841,801 (they included Fringe area)
13. CBD Dallas- 26,890,00 (The report lists FW separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
14. Denver- 26,493,570
15. Cleveland- 21,969,702
16. Portland- 19,779,070
17. CBD Atlanta- 17,288,368
18. Phoenix- 15,779,714
19. Indianapolis- 14,709,070
20. Detroit- 13,187,372
21. Miami- 13,133,897
22. Milwaukee- 12,439,588
23. Columbus- 12,289,442
24. Cincinnati- 11,919,525
Oakland CBD 11,737,986(Grubb Ellis)
25. San Diego- 11,393,918
26. St Paul- 10,059,518
27. Fort Worth- 9,956,82
28. Austin- 8,490,93
29. San Jose- 8,355,347

I added Oakland.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

I added Oakland.

Thanks, was trying to find it but couldn't. Can't find Baltimore either


what do you think of Grubb Ellis's list??

I left out many suburban districts, just added the CBD of main cities.

For example I left out Uptown ( 29,383,515) and Energy District ( 20,112,905) in Houston. I can't believe Uptown Houston is bigger than DTW Dallas
or that the Energy Corridor has more office space than DT ATL

There is more office space in Sugar Land, NASA/ Clearlake and the Woodlands than in DT San Antonio and they say San Antonio is the best Downtown in Texas??

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Thanks, was trying to find it but couldn't. Can't find Baltimore either


what do you think of Grubb Ellis's list??

I left out many suburban districts, just added the CBD of main cities.

For example I left out Uptown ( 29,383,515) and Energy District ( 20,112,905) in Houston. I can't believe Uptown Houston is bigger than DTW Dallas
or that the Energy Corridor has more office space than DT ATL

There is more office space in Sugar Land, NASA/ Clearlake and the Woodlands than in DT San Antonio and they say San Antonio is the best Downtown in Texas??

A lot of the former office space was converted to Hotel and Residential space.

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Thanks, was trying to find it but couldn't. Can't find Baltimore either


what do you think of Grubb Ellis's list??

I can buy that... Can live with it. Either way, I wouldn't really be surprised

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

what do you think of Grubb Ellis's list??

I respect their opinion, just as respect the others.