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Old 11-25-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
Thanks, was trying to find it but couldn't. Can't find Baltimore either


what do you think of Grubb Ellis's list??

I left out many suburban districts, just added the CBD of main cities.

For example I left out Uptown ( 29,383,515) and Energy District ( 20,112,905) in Houston. I can't believe Uptown Houston is bigger than DTW Dallas
or that the Energy Corridor has more office space than DT ATL

There is more office space in Sugar Land, NASA/ Clearlake and the Woodlands than in DT San Antonio and they say San Antonio is the best Downtown in Texas??
The Energy Corridor may have a lot of office space but it's not very impressive to look at. It's random office buildings lining Interstate 10 through West Houston. It has zero connectivity.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Guess you didn't care to read my prior post...

Government sponsored and holding federal contracts are NOT synonymous with being a government business...

That's like calling Lockheed government... Lockheed is not government. Just holds government contracts and gets government sponsorship. Government IS the client and the business of the town. But Private business are still private business whether their client is the government or not...

*CSC/Comp Science... okay. Mistake. Minus 1.
Its not by mere coincidence that so many defense contractors are now located in the DC area and you shouldnt try to downplay the fact that much of their business is reliant on government spending cause who else is going to buy fighter jets and military satellite systems?
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Originally Posted by Dallaz View Post
A lot of the former office space was converted to Hotel and Residential space.
That happens everywhere hun.

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Originally Posted by Psykomonkee View Post
I can buy that... Can live with it. Either way, I wouldn't really be surprised
3rd isn't bad.

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The Energy Corridor may have a lot of office space but it's not very impressive to look at. It's random office buildings lining Interstate 10 through West Houston. It has zero connectivity.
never said it was. Just fascinated at the bulk of it, and that was all I said.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Dallas

Central Expressway 10,387,368
Far North Dallas 18,392,981
LBJ Freeway 22,751,481
Uptown/Turtle Creek 12,116,834
South Dallas 1,439,945 (That's not bad for that area)
East Dallas 2,464,952
Preston Center 3,429,247
Stemmons 7,015,130 (I thought the Stemmons Corridor would have more)
Far Northeast Dallas 525,455

Total 77,083,448 with CBD it is 103,973,449
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Largest Suburban Totals:
1. DC- 197M
2. Houston- 158M
3. Los Angeles- 158M
4. N NJ- 142M
5. Boston- 129M
6. Atlanta- 127M
7. Chicago- 107M
8. Denver- 81M
9. Dallas- 77M (I didn't verify Dallaz's numbers but they are probably wrong )
10. Philadelphia- 61M
11. Detroit 58M
12. San Diego- 58M
13. San Jose- 56M
14. Phoenix- 53M


Largest Overalls (above 50M):

1. Manhattan- 364
2. DC- 305M
3. Chicago-237M
4. Houston- 194M
5. Boston- 193M
6. Los Angeles- 190M
7. N NJ- 152M
8. Atlanta- 144M
9. Denver- 108M
10. Philadelphia- 105M
11. Dallas- 104M (I didn't verify Dallaz's numbers but they are probably wrong )
12. Seattle- 90M
13. Detroit- 71M
13. Minneapolis- 71M
15. Phoenix- 69M
16. San Diego- 69M
17. San Francisco- 66M
18. San Jose- 64M
19. Portland- 53M
20. Pittsburgh- 51M
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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http://www.atlantadowntown.com/_file...ice_costar.pdf
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
Largest Suburban Totals:
1. DC- 197M
2. Houston- 158M
3. Los Angeles- 158M
4. N NJ- 142M
5. Boston- 129M
6. Atlanta- 127M
7. Chicago- 107M
8. Denver- 81M
9. Dallas- 77M (I didn't verify Dallaz's numbers but they are probably wrong )
10. Philadelphia- 61M
11. Detroit 58M
12. San Diego- 58M
13. San Jose- 56M
14. Phoenix- 53M


Largest Overalls (above 50M):

1. Manhattan- 364
2. DC- 305M
3. Chicago-237M
4. Houston- 194M
5. Boston- 193M
6. Los Angeles- 190M
7. N NJ- 152M
8. Atlanta- 144M
9. Denver- 108M
10. Philadelphia- 105M
11. Dallas- 104M (I didn't verify Dallaz's numbers but they are probably wrong )
12. Seattle- 90M
13. Detroit- 71M
13. Minneapolis- 71M
15. Phoenix- 69M
16. San Diego- 69M
17. San Francisco- 66M
18. San Jose- 64M
19. Portland- 53M
20. Pittsburgh- 51M
HA HA HA I messed up

Here's the right numbers

Suburban 78,523,393
Total 105,413,394
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I don't think all buildings count.

I see they are counting 350 buildings for dt ATL, for Houston for example they only used 80 buildings. Obviously they are using certain qualifications for buildings in districts instead of all buildings downtown or whatever. Also, they only picked office districts instead of whole sections of town like that ATL list is doing.

If you do that for other cities the office space in some will run to the billions instead of hundreds of millions.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Local sources are going to be more knowledgable.

City of San Francisco 112,538,897 sq ft.
Oakland/ East Bay 110,794,065 sq ft.
San Jose-Silicon Valley 107,835, 489 sq ft.
San Francisco Peninsula/San Mateo 48,442,203 sq ft.
Sonoma County 10,656,684 sq ft.
Marin County 8,786,633 sq ft.
Solano County 4,254,616 sq ft.
Bay Area Total 403,308,587 sq ft.

San Francisco Leasing Activity & Projected Vacancies - Market Statistics & Trends: Commercial real estate news, analysis and resources for the San Francisco Bay Area
East Bay Leasing Activity & Projected Vacancies - Market Statistics & Trends: Commercial real estate news, analysis and resources for the San Francisco Bay Area
Silicon Valley Leasing Activity & Projected Vacancies - Market Statistics & Trends: Commercial real estate news, analysis and resources for the San Francisco Bay Area
San Mateo Leasing Activity & Projected Vacancies - Market Statistics & Trends: Commercial real estate news, analysis and resources for the San Francisco Bay Area

North Bay sources:
http://www.ctbt.com/Web/Download-Research-File.aspx?id=656A0FF4-B869-4A2A-A060-EBD8329FC75F (broken link)
http://www.marinspace.com/wp-content...ce-Q4-2010.pdf
http://www.colliersparrish.com/newsl...news.Q3-11.pdf

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Originally Posted by Htownlove
I see they are counting 350 buildings for dt ATL, for Houston for example they only used 80 buildings. Obviously they are using certain qualifications for buildings in districts instead of all buildings downtown or whatever. Also, they only picked office districts instead of whole sections of town like that ATL list is doing.

If you do that for other cities the office space in some will run to the billions instead of hundreds of millions.
But what's wrong with that? Its not cabasse's fault that his local source is more complete. And I think if any city came close to 1 Billion it would be New York and LA since they have the most people who work in offices.

It seems to me that many of these reports focus only on buildings they want to lease.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This source says the DFW Metroplex has 226 Million sq ft.
Dallas Office Space Market Overview » OfficeFinder Blog

and that...

Houston has 266 Million sq ft.
OfficeFinder Blog » Archives
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