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View Poll Results: Which do you Prefer? Philadelphia or Pittsburgh?
Philadelphia 145 51.06%
Pittsburgh 101 35.56%
Both 38 13.38%
Voters: 284. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-26-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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I stand corrected.
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Big shocker here. Jobs within 1 mile of CBD, in 2013. Very close numbers.
http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

Jobs
Oakland (Pittsburgh) - 79,896
University City (Philadelphia) - 79,368

Job Density
Oakland (Pittsburgh) - 134 jobs/acre
University City (Philadelphia) - 85 jobs/acre
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Big shocker here. Jobs within 1 mile of CBD, in 2013. Very close numbers.
http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

Jobs
Oakland (Pittsburgh) - 79,896
University City (Philadelphia) - 79,368

Job Density
Oakland (Pittsburgh) - 134 jobs/acre
University City (Philadelphia) - 85 jobs/acre
Not surprised. University City is growing way more robustly however and will easily surpass Oakland within the next few years.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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They're completely different cities, and that should be celebrated rather than Pittsburgh always trying to act like it's on the level of Philadelphia, let alone above.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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No one supports the penguins?!!? Are you serious?!?! The pens have sold out every game since February 2007 and have a season ticket waiting list of 5,000+ people. Yeah no support. The Pens also blow out the Flyers with support on Facebook with 1,189,000 fans of the Pens opposed to 809,000 fans of the Flyers, and that metro is significantly large than Pittsburgh.
And what about before 2007?

Thought so.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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They're completely different cities, and that should be celebrated rather than Pittsburgh always trying to act like it's on the level of Philadelphia, let alone above.
Agreed. Pittsburgh is a smaller city than Philadelphia so naturally Philly will have more of everything. Pittsburgh punches above it's weight and the city of Philadelphia is not yet to it's full potential but it's starting to get there. They just get compared because they're in the same state but they are completely different cities.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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I see Pittsburgh as the Seattle of the East. People might not see it now, but give it enough time and I predict Pittsburgh will be considered one of the most beautiful cities in the country.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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I see Pittsburgh as the Seattle of the East. People might not see it now, but give it enough time and I predict Pittsburgh will be considered one of the most beautiful cities in the country.
more like portland
seattle is on a diff level
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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more like portland
seattle is on a diff level
Pittsburgh blows Portland out of the water.

You clearly don't know much about Pittsburgh. It was a big city when Seattle was nothing.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:11 AM
 
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And what about before 2007?

Thought so.
I've examined hockey attendance across the NHL since 1989-1990 or the teams' inaugural seasons, with the exceptions of the Wild, Blue Jackets and Jets. In the process, I've discovered that attendance fluctuations for the Penguins in that period of time have been pretty normal relative to the rest of the NHL. The only season in which attendance was a problem was 2003-2004, right after the Penguins did a salary dump in order to break even due to the obsolete arena they played in at the time. The loss of so many familiar names alienated much of the fan base that season, so attendance dropped. With that said, TV ratings remained high, and that season was the only one since 1989-1990 in which the Penguins averaged less than 87% of arena capacity.

Only seven teams have had consistently better fan support than the Penguins: the Canadiens, Flyers, Maple Leafs, Rangers, Red Wings, Senators and Sharks. Each of those teams is located either in Canada or in a super-large U.S. metropolitan area. The Penguins are more comparable to the Blues, Bruins, Flames, Kings, Oilers and Sabres in terms of fan support: solid overall, but susceptible to some fluctuation.
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