Chicago vs Mexico City vs Toronto (largest, people, Boston, cons)
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OK. For any other reason we say 20 plus million in MC but when we count the slums they don't count?(Just like we count the WHOLE AREA in other cities like Juarez, Sao Paulo , Naerobi etc and that is NOT to say there is a lack of slums in MC) A+for manipulating and twisting of the one thing you all refuse to see or acknowledge the vastness! JUST PATHETIC . Some of you don't even know of the wide existence of those areas.
Moreover, what a class act some of you are when you take cheap shots of those that leave the conversation when they say the have made their points multiple times. Such self justifying righteousness to the full! ,
MC IS FULL OF MULTI SQUARE MILES OF HELLHOLE SLUMS AND ALSO RUNNED DOWN AREAS. TO SAY OTHERWISE YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELVES AND OR LIVE IN A BUBBLE. Don't like the truth ? You're due for a major reality check. Keep trying to put lipstick on a pig! Period
There are over 20 million in the greater metro area, similar to New York, only in about 1/8th the size. The city boundaries contain a bit under 9 million and include all of the most urban areas. The State of Mexico wraps around the city limits on the east, north and west sides, and the State contains most of the areas you're talking about. Clearly you didn't know that. They are not areas that any tourists would ever really see, and it's unlikely that any foreign immigrants would move there.
I'm just curious why you consider yourself such an expert as to the development patterns of the city and the overall area. What is your actual experience? You said you visited, but it seems unlikely that you would've had any reason to go to those areas. It seems that all of your "knowledge" on the issue is you read some stuff on the internet.
OK. For any other reason we say 20 plus million in MC but when we count the slums they don't count?(Just like we count the WHOLE AREA in other cities like Juarez, Sao Paulo , Naerobi etc and that is NOT to say there is a lack of slums in MC) A+for manipulating and twisting of the one thing you all refuse to see or acknowledge the vastness! JUST PATHETIC . Some of you don't even know of the wide existence of those areas.
Moreover, what a class act some of you are when you take cheap shots of those that leave the conversation when they say the have made their points multiple times. Such self justifying righteousness to the full! ,
MC IS FULL OF MULTI SQUARE MILES OF HELLHOLE SLUMS AND ALSO RUNNED DOWN AREAS. TO SAY OTHERWISE YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELVES AND OR LIVE IN A BUBBLE. Don't like the truth ? You're due for a major reality check. Keep trying to put lipstick on a pig! Period
Wow, you have been getting so much flak from everyone because of your tunnel vision - focusing on a single aspect of CDMX.
I hope you had a chance to read in my earlier post about that link to thefacbook vid you shared on native americans and white people.
It was soo disgusting and a classic case of a white supremacist's attempt at justifying genocide, land dispossession, colorism, and systematic oppression of the first nations people.
I would hope that most people caught that. It's clear your agenda here is only to continue to smear CDMX - but I think most of the members on this forum are aware of your nasty motive.
but they are representing, if not slums then next to it all with runned down areas.
I am done and tired of trying to prove my points. They are obviously well spelled out thus I am out of this conversation. Feel free everyone to beat up on my statements the moment you know you won't get a response from me. Adios
I saw plenty of white people in Mexico, trust me a blonde person won't catch anyone's eye, plenty walking around, especially in the wealthier parts.
and yes, its a city full of grandeur, it may have some slums but they are not near the run down craphole slums most American cities have, Mexico city slums at least have a human aspect to it. American slums are right down depressing!
And no... the epithome of human achievement is not American suburbias with tidy yards, or some vanilla town like Toronto!
^^^ yeah, you really showed how pink Toronto is.... that corrects it being merely vanilla? Maybe you mean something else to post that picture ???? Maybe to say Toronto is not like American Suburbia? To reply to the post you used as a quote? Guess I'm confused.....
vibrancy - Mexico City >>> Chicago > Toronto; MC is a massive leap ahead from the other two which are also very vibrant
culture - Mexico City > Chicago, Toronto; MC has a really strong sense of itself
size (largest to smallest in feeling) - Mexico City >> Chicago > Toronto; MC remains dense for far longer and seems to just keep going, though Chicago's large collection of skyscrapers and the dense north side sometimes makes it feel large in a different way in a relatively small area
amenities - not sure what to make of this one
scenery - Chicago > Toronto > Mexico City; the lakefront is beautifully preserved in Chicago which interplays with the urban neighborhoods really well with Toronto having similar but much less well done, MC does have some mountains on its outskirts but they're not visible from much of the city's interior and aren't really that spectacular especially if development has gotten to it
international influence - Mexico City > Chicago >> Toronto; historically as in reaching far into the past, MC has for centuries been far more important and still remains so today as the primate city and capital of Mexico which has especially far reach into the rest of Latin America plus it's a major center of telenovela production that has an oddly global reach, Chicago has had several important contributions in various fields over the last two century and a half and remains an important economic node, Toronto is like a Chicago that's a peg down and more recently a major city
food - Mexico City >> Chicago, Toronto; this is a lot of personal preference but I like MC's food culture and produce available a lot more than I like the other two, Chicago gets points for some interesting fine dining and some local dishes, Toronto gets points for its great south and east asian options,
more urban - MC >>> Chicago > Toronto; look at the stats or wander around
history - MC >>> Chicago >> Toronto; similar to what was said about international influence
architecture - MC, Chicago >> Toronto; like MC's ornate historic parts, but don't like them that much plus there's a lot more ramshackle stuff, Chicago has some great architecture, Toronto's okay
public transit - MC >> Chicago > Toronto: MC's system is really extensive and shockingly cheap with many transfer nodes for the subway, Chicago's system is quite a bit larger than Toronto's but seems more worn and trouble or delay prone
some other important metrics:
pollution (best to worst): Toronto > Chicago >> Mexico City: the air pollution of Mexico City is no joke even if it is massively improved from a quarter century ago
safety (best to worst): Toronto >> Chicago > Mexico City: Well, look at the stats. Chicago has its safety issues mostly in specific parts of the city, but those are pretty bad. MC isn't as crime-ridden as narco horror stories from Mexico would make it seem, but it's still not great.
quality of life (best to worst): Toronto > Chicago > Mexico City: Toronto has an affordability crisis for its housing, but for a lot of other basic necessities, it's part of a country that collectively offers a lot of services that neither the US nor Mexico can manage
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 05-10-2017 at 06:41 AM..
What a lot of people don't realize is that CDMX is surrounded by a lot of preserved natural areas (forests, volcanic mountain chains, etc).
Here is a view of Lake Chalco, one of the last remnants of the great endoheric lakes that covered the vast expanse of the valley floor. The 2 snow capped peaks are the volcanoes Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl.
Here you can see the southeastern stretches of the city with the volcanoes looming above.
Here is a view of Cumbres Del Ajusco Nat'l Park (part of the park is actually within the boundaries of CDMX):
In the western boroughs you have a lot of neat modern architecture and new construction:
Reforma Avenue is seeing a resurgence in development currently.
Some views of the historic center:
The art deco monument to the Revolution:
The red brick you see on many older residences and churches in the city center is a volcanic stone called Tezontle. Many of the Tezontle bricks visitors see in the historic colonial neighborhoods were actually pulled from the large Aztec temples that once stood in the religious precinct of Tenotchitlan.
And then there is Chapultepec Park (one of the largest urban parks in the western hemisphere), which essentially acts as the lungs for CDMX:
Here are just some shots of buildings in the older sections of the city (in the borough Benito Juarez) like Condesa and Colonia Roma:
Last edited by sf_arkitect; 05-10-2017 at 08:17 PM..
How dare you not post photos of the all the slums that make up 99.99999% of Mexico City!
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