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Of those 11 new shows being shot in NYC, ow many stand a chance to make it past season one? Two, maybe three?
When you say there's no film capital, it seems like a sneaky attempt to say that NYC is a co-film capital. It isn't, Los Angeles still has plurality in this regard. NYC is a popular setting for films (so is the old west), it always has been. How many associate the Hollywood industry with New York because of it? Exactly.
Of those 11 new shows being shot in NYC, ow many stand a chance to make it past season one? Two, maybe three?
When you say there's no film capital, it seems like a sneaky attempt to say that NYC is a co-film capital. It isn't, Los Angeles still has plurality in this regard. NYC is a popular setting for films (so is the old west), it always has been. How many associate the Hollywood industry with New York because of it? Exactly.
Eleven is a lot better than two--these dramas are steady top earners. LA used to have pretty much all of them and even a few years ago had a strong majority of them. As for those chances--well, the more you play the better your odds of making it.
There is no real film capital is more what's going on now.
How many people associate Friends and Seinfeld with Los Angeles? Do people associate LA with the Old West? Were cowboys and the Old West wholly created by LA because the films were shot there?
How many people associate Friends and Seinfeld with Los Angeles? Do people associate LA with the Old West? Were cowboys and the Old West wholly created by LA because the films were shot there?
Which city exported those shows and movies to the world though? I think the point you're missing is much of NYC's image and culture is exported via the production done in Los Angeles. In the general public LA likely wouldn't get credit for shows like Seinfeld or Friends but in reality most of the people actaully listed on the credits are people and places in and around LA.
Which city exported those shows and movies to the world though? I think the point you're missing is much of NYC's image and culture is exported via the production done in Los Angeles. In the general public LA likely wouldn't get credit for shows like Seinfeld or Friends but in reality most of the people actaully listed on the credits are people and places in and around LA.
Yea, I stated that over and over again. There are different sides to this--where the production takes place and the culture that the production is depicting. I think there are reasonable arguments for why both should be taken into account.
It makes sense that TV dramas would decline, given the current economic state of CA right now. How well do you think tax incentives for on-location shoots would go over right now with a populous still sitting on 10% unemployment? Like a lead balloon, that's how. I don't buy that it's a permanent trend. Los Angeles will never have the vast majority of film and television productions like in the past, but it will always have a strong plurality of them.
Oy, the public associates fictional old west films with...movies. Movies are associated with Hollywood, and Hollywood is in L.A.
So when a movie takes place in space, who gets the credit for it? Martians? M.A.S.H. took places in 1950's Korea--is it a Korean show?
This is such a horrible argument, I can't believe you guys keep coming back to it.
No city gets credit for the culture of M.A.S.H. since basically the war experiences were drawn from all over. Why would you expect a specific city to have contributed that experience? Is it because you can't help but try to funnel everything into your argument no matter how ridiculous? The production was of course Los Angeles so LA gets credit for that end.
It makes sense that TV dramas would decline, given the current economic state of CA right now. How well do you think tax incentives for on-location shoots would go over right now with a populous still sitting on 10% unemployment? Like a lead balloon, that's how. I don't buy that it's a permanent trend. Los Angeles will never have the vast majority of film and television productions like in the past, but it will always have a strong plurality of them.
Oy, the public associates fictional old west films with...movies. Movies are associated with Hollywood, and Hollywood is in L.A.
The trend started over a decade ago before the recession. It was coming the whole way basically year after year. The economic state of CA is affecting it by holding up any possible mitigation measures, but it's not the cause of it. It's also why it's time to stop arguing that it's basically happened. Facilities and trained crew are now available in other states/provinces/countries since all this runaway production started. It will not always have a strong plurality--that is not guaranteed at all. That's the same kind of stupidity that stopped LA from acting when it had the opportunity because it was simply assumed that the idea of LA not having a monopoly on the industry was simply too ridiculous. Well, now it's not ridiculous.
And the old west mythology started with books and radio shows (as well as the actual old west that existed) and then later to film and television. LA certainly has some part of it, but you understand that it's a depiction of a part of American culture that is not the exclusive domain of LA, right?
No city gets credit for the culture of M.A.S.H. since basically the war experiences were drawn from all over. Why would you expect a specific city to have contributed that experience? Is it because you can't help but try to funnel everything into your argument no matter how ridiculous? The production was of course Los Angeles so LA gets credit for that end.
The same goes for martians and space.
Considering the thread topic, where the production took place is HIGHLY important. M.A.S.H. was shot in Los Angeles for 11 seasons. The city itself doesn't contribute to anything--its not a living entity. The people living and working on the production, in the city, are the ones contributing, and their efforts are 100x more important than the setting of a fictional story.
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