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Okay, so what I'm reading of Philly is that Philly is another NYC style anomaly because it is so patched with neighborhoods that whole areas can't be generalized?
Many of the huge cities are like that. LA, Chicago and San Fran are also like that.
However I'm also reading that Southwest Philly is bad. So it sort of still holds to the theory, except...
Well, no it doesn't IF people in Philly have always held North Philly as the more dangerous side of town.
But still, the question is, with MOST cities, WHY South side? There are a slim few exceptions IT SEEMS.
East Oakland, is the area with the bad reputation, but East Oakland is varied as some areas are quite pleasant and others quite unpleasant.
The term 'East Bay' is a region of which Oakland is the largest city and the term 'East Bay' refers to 2-counties(Alameda and Contra Costa), home to 2.6 million people and is very diverse socio-economically, lots of poor, lots of middle class, lots of wealth, some areas undesirable, others extremely desirable.
Aren't the communities and cities south of Downtown Miami relatively nicer and wealthier than one's north of it?
I don't know... I've only ever been around downtown Miami, out to Miami Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, and down to Homestead, FL which IS south of Miami and a bit of a pit! I have no idea, but I don't THINK Homestead is considered Miami metro... Is it?
If south Miami is anything like Homestead, I'd have to guess it is trashy.
Whenever I've been to Miami, it was on vacation! So, I saw had no interest in exploring hoods. Lol.
Homestead was a work trip.
Okay, so what I'm reading of Philly is that Philly is another NYC style anomaly because it is so patched with neighborhoods that whole areas can't be generalized?
Many of the huge cities are like that. LA, Chicago and San Fran are also like that.
However I'm also reading that Southwest Philly is bad. So it sort of still holds to the theory, except...
Well, no it doesn't IF people in Philly have always held North Philly as the more dangerous side of town.
But still, the question is, with MOST cities, WHY South side? There are a slim few exceptions IT SEEMS.
Philly is even more anomalous than those cities you mentioned because you can't generalize Philadelphia at all in terms of safety and desireability. In most American cities, you can point to sections of town and generalize about how safe/generally wealthy it is. Except for center city (and arguably some sections of NW Philly), Philadelphia is a difficult city to peg. It's truly neighborhood by neighborhood and often block by block.
East Oakland, is the area with the bad reputation, but East Oakland is varied as some areas are quite pleasant and others quite unpleasant.
The term 'East Bay' is a region of which Oakland is the largest city and the term 'East Bay' refers to 2-counties(Alameda and Contra Costa), home to 2.6 million people and is very diverse socio-economically, lots of poor, lots of middle class, lots of wealth, some areas undesirable, others extremely desirable.
Thanks.
I once lived in EAST Palo Alto (considered to be the rougher side of Palo Alto. Lol... Silly huh?).
And when there, we referred to "East Bay" as being the rougher side of the Bay Area... Were we wrong?
All I knew was, I had a cousin living near downtown Oakland, and when visiting her, I was ALWAYS cautioned before going over to East Bay.
We also (from where we stood) also looked at Richmond as being East Bay, and thought of Richmond as being THE HOOD. For us, if it wasn't on the Peninsula (and wasn't down in Jose) it was considered East Bay.
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Philly is even more anomalous than those cities you mentioned because you can't generalize Philadelphia at all in terms of safety and desireability. In most American cities, you can point to sections of town and generalize about how safe/generally wealthy it is. Except for center city (and arguably some sections of NW Philly), Philadelphia is a difficult city to peg. It's truly neighborhood by neighborhood and often block by block.
Okay. So like, though Chicago is bigger and also is very patchy with neighborhoods, you still can sort of generalize South Chi against North Chi... Same with LA with being able to generalize East LA & South LA vs West Hollywood and North LA...
But you can't do that in Philly? Wow... Ok.
Thanks.
I once lived in EAST Palo Alto (considered to be the rougher side of Palo Alto. Lol... Silly huh?).
And when there, we referred to "East Bay" as being the rougher side of the Bay Area... Were we wrong?
All I knew is, I had a cousin living near downtown Oakland, and when visiting her, I was ALWAYS cautioned before going over to East Bay.
We also (from where we stood) also looked at Richmond as being East Bay, and thought of Richmond as being THE HOOD. For us, if it wasn't on the Peninsula (and wasn't down in Jose) it was considered East Bay.
The East Bay is way to big to generalize:
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