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Old 08-09-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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South LA was not always historically as undesirable as its current state. I believe the majority of the homes in the area were built to house workers for the port and other industrial uses along the LA River and South Bay. As those jobs left and white flight took hold, the neighborhoods plummeted. This is not all that unique though, very common in many US cities.
Yeah at one point in the late 1940s, George HW Bush and a young George W Bush--along with the rest of the Bush family lived in an apartment building in Compton, back when it was a fairly comfortable middle-class area when the elder Bush was working in the area.

The apartment later became a crack house however by the late 80s...
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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Yes, the theory about the rivers may be true. Since most rivers flow south, historically the industrial waste was washed away south of the city, which unfortunately brought pollution downstream creating slums and driving people north. Interestingly enough, where I live (Rochester, NY) the south side of the city is the affluent section, and the Genesee River we are built around flows to the north.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Right! South San Fran is the rough side of San Fran. Although, you keep further south and it gets really nice in Menlo Park and Redwood City... Still, South San Fran is rough.
Even Menlo Park has a rougher area (East Menlo)... since it's adjacent to EPA you probably just thought it was another part of EPA though. It's the area west/north of Willow Rd. on the EPA side of 101. Redwood City also has its areas but most of them are technically unincorporated.
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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I'm hearing things like southward flow of rivers with industrial waste (but in some places that theory doesn't hold up. So why?), and I'm hearing eastward weather patterns with air pollution (but then there are some places that wouldn't hold up either. East Atlanta is much nicer than the underdeveloped & industrialized West Atlanta).

Why, why, why? (I sound like a child)
LOL. I don't think this is sound reasoning, but just food for thought since you are so interested...the St Johns River that flows through Jax goes South-North. (But again, I think thats just a coincidence)
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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I think that in 10-15 years DC will be an exception to this as well. Because of height limits, neighborhoods city wide are revitalizing very rapidly. East of Anacostia will soon be a great area to live in DC and there will be no bad areas.
not even..Anacostia is just one neighborhood in Southeast dc and after revitalizing its still goin have bad elements to it
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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The most affluent Southside of a city I can think of is the Birmingham Alabama MSA

It's called "Over the Mountain" and it has some of the most affluent suburbs probably in
the United States.

Mountain Brook is gorgeously wealthy and a big Jew town. Vestavia Hills is another, Then there
are all kinds of other pockets that are unicorporated within the southern adjacent counties such as in and around Shelby County, St. Clair County.

Southern smaller suburbs such as Homewood , AL, Hoover, Pelham, Leeds, Trussville as well.
All of these are on the SOUTHSIDE of Birmingham, and most are very very nice albeit too bad they are in Birmingham.

Even "southside" within the city of Birmingham tends to be very very nice - such as Five Points, Highland Avenue areas.

Birmingham does not fit the mold. That might be a good thing. Maybe. It's still a city a bit behind the curve (but thinks it's not for some reason).
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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A very loose / rough outlining of the less desirable neighborhoods in SF historically and/or presently:

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Old 08-16-2013, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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South suburbs of Cleveland are very nice. South neighborhoods of the city are pretty decent, not nearly as bad as the East side.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Oxnard
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South Baton Rouge is more affluent than North Baton Rouge which is mostly ghetto.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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Yes, the theory about the rivers may be true. Since most rivers flow south, historically the industrial waste was washed away south of the city, which unfortunately brought pollution downstream creating slums and driving people north. Interestingly enough, where I live (Rochester, NY) the south side of the city is the affluent section, and the Genesee River we are built around flows to the north.
Yep...Rochester is definitely more of an "East vs West" city and metro than a "North vs South" metro though. It's unique in that when looking at the metro as a whole; the east side is the affluent/white collar side while the west side is the more blue-collar working/middle class side. In most metro areas around the country; I feel like it is the other way around.
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