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View Poll Results: Which city is more cultural and iconic?
Chicago 113 31.04%
Los Angeles 251 68.96%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Chicagoans just can't let it go
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Since the LA metro considers movie stars to be the end all be all of culture, I think Philip Seymour Hoffman said it best....

“It is my strong desire . . . that my son Cooper Hoffman be raised and reside in or near the borough of Manhattan,” Hoffman wrote in his will, which was unveiled Wednesday.
If not New York, Hoffman wrote, then “Chicago, Illinois or San Francisco, California.”
And if girlfriend Marianne (Mimi) O’Donnell “cannot reside in any of such cities, then it is my strong desire” that Cooper “visit these cities at least twice a year.”
“The purpose of this request is so that my son will be exposed to the culture, art and architecture that such cities offer,” the papers state.
Noticeably not on the will was Los Angeles, the city where Hoffman launched his movie career.
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Wow. One heroin-addled actor from New York wants his now fatherless child to reside in a city or two he likes. I'd dare say you cracked the case, Sir. Do you have any similarly sharp insights into the respective wills of Amy Winehouse or Chris Farley?

Overdose wisdom aside, Los Angeles is without question a far greater originator of "culture" and is far better known and readily perceived by people worldwide. No comparison whatsoever, unless perhaps you live in the Midwest. Chicago is a great city and I think any trip to America must include it to be thorough. Los Angeles is something else entirely, and just because it does not have a tourist-friendly "downtown" with a few chain restaurants and a chain piano bar does not at all diminish its transcendent status.

The only North American city this debate even applies to is New York (which wins). An argument can be made for the Bay Area. That's it.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: LBC
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Chicagoans just can't let it go
I know I make my most important life decisions on the advice of some guy who died with a needle in his arm.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Chicagoans just can't let it go
Jw from the outside, is this thread the reason you're posting such nonsense in the Chicago/SF thread? Hmmm, I wonder who has trouble letting things go...
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Downtown LA
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Since the LA metro considers movie stars to be the end all be all of culture, I think Philip Seymour Hoffman said it best....

“It is my strong desire . . . that my son Cooper Hoffman be raised and reside in or near the borough of Manhattan,” Hoffman wrote in his will, which was unveiled Wednesday.
If not New York, Hoffman wrote, then “Chicago, Illinois or San Francisco, California.”
And if girlfriend Marianne (Mimi) O’Donnell “cannot reside in any of such cities, then it is my strong desire” that Cooper “visit these cities at least twice a year.”
“The purpose of this request is so that my son will be exposed to the culture, art and architecture that such cities offer,” the papers state.
Noticeably not on the will was Los Angeles, the city where Hoffman launched his movie career.
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Because the opinion of a guy that died in his bathroom with a needle in his arm should be highly regarded and used as the basis for an argument.

Also, its not people in the LA metro that consider movie stars to be the "end all be all of culture". You're thinking of midwesterners. Do you really think a production assistant, editor, set designer, sound engineer, or 3D artist can't wait to get home from a hard days work so they can flop down on the couch and watch TV? Do you like thinking about work right after you've gotten home from the office? Angelenos are the ones making the sausage. When they're not working, they have better things to do than consume the content they create - especially given all the actual cultural institutions out here and to choose from. We have more than double the number of museums that San Francisco has, arguably the best music scene in the country, not to mention ridiculously diverse geography and climate for one metro area, with all the year round outdoor activities that come with that.

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Old 04-08-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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Jw from the outside, is this thread the reason you're posting such nonsense in the Chicago/SF thread? Hmmm, I wonder who has trouble letting things go...
Why would I have trouble letting go when Chicago got destroyed in this thread
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Jw from the outside, is this thread the reason you're posting such nonsense in the Chicago/SF thread? Hmmm, I wonder who has trouble letting things go...
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Why would I have trouble letting go when Chicago got destroyed in this thread
Reading comprehension fail...
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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I took it as if I had something against Chicago due to this thread, when its quite the opposite, Chicago can't even beat a city many times smaller.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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LA is definitely more known to international tourists, but that doesn't mean they don't know about Chicago. Most people are drawn to LA for the Hollywood thing, for the most part, and beaches.

Also the data from international arrivals by city will not be 100% accurate. This is basically counting people flying in internationally, but there are many international travelers who travel domestically once they're in the US too. Really no different than other large countries in the world. Anybody who's been to big countries like Canada, Mexico, Turkey, Japan, China, Brazil, etc for long enough will tell you it happens a lot. Same as the US.
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Old 04-08-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Since the LA metro considers movie stars to be the end all be all of culture, I think Philip Seymour Hoffman said it best....

“It is my strong desire . . . that my son Cooper Hoffman be raised and reside in or near the borough of Manhattan,” Hoffman wrote in his will, which was unveiled Wednesday.
If not New York, Hoffman wrote, then “Chicago, Illinois or San Francisco, California.”
And if girlfriend Marianne (Mimi) O’Donnell “cannot reside in any of such cities, then it is my strong desire” that Cooper “visit these cities at least twice a year.”
“The purpose of this request is so that my son will be exposed to the culture, art and architecture that such cities offer,” the papers state.
Noticeably not on the will was Los Angeles, the city where Hoffman launched his movie career.
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Very interesting will. I'm glad that Mr. Hoffman realizes there is a world outside of LA, and it is not the end all be all of American culture.

This is something I think people of a lot of big cities get caught up in. There is an extremely high number of people from large cities that just can't cope, or can't cope well living outside of those cities. Someone living in New York City would have a very difficult time adjusting to a small or medium sized city in the South East. Also, the way homers talk up their home cities shows how little they travel and expose themselves to other areas.
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