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Old 03-27-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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I can't recall who's it was, but in my Atlanta count I initially included things like the 2 tower cranes for the College Football Hall of Fame downtown, which in the recent photo thread was pictured, and the cranes had since been taken down.




Lots of the 3-6 story buildings have cranes, though. Cranes up for high-rises in any city save for NYC (where just about everything going up is high rise) are only a chunk of the overall number of cranes up overall. Smaller infill is by no means unique to Atlanta In fact, given land use there and the ability to go big and the need to go big to get certain returns, cities like Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, etc typically have more "large" projects than small. Cities like SF, Boston, and Philly had a ton of small projects constantly going up that get lost in the shuffle and go unnoticed.

For instance, if you rent in Atlanta, there's a high likelihood you rent in a building with 100 or greater units. This is simply not the case in SF, Boston, or Philadelphia where most people rent in small walk-ups or 15-50 unit infill buildings. In terms of number of buildings going up, not number of units, most buildings going up in SF are small. However, they comprise a small chunk of the # of units going up now since, or the square footage in the case of office, because we are in a large in every sense of the word building boom. The most recent rental deliverable was 754 units in two towers - it would take dozens of smaller buildings in the city's neighborhoods to equal that. Most Atl buildings UC are 200-350 units.
I was in Midtown today and saw 2 cranes on the Emory proton center and 1 crane on the Ponce apartment project. I also saw a crane on the student housing across the street from publix. I think it was a tower crane but I'm not sure, but another one on the Centergy Student housing project. So that would make 5 cranes in Midtown...
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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^^^Hmm, the Atl posters haven't reported a crane yet for Centergy North apartments, though someone snapped a pic of the crane that went up for the student housing across from the Publix at Plaza Midtown. I think there are firmly 4 tower cranes in the strict definition of Midtown, likely soon to be more (though 131 Ponce might be coming down soon). 5 if you include the crane on 10th at Georgia Tech.

I'm not trying to put Atlanta in a bad light, but I do keenly keep track of development in that city and routinely visit (I was just there a couple weeks ago). Atlanta's definitely a large construction zone and will only see more stuff rise in the next couple of years, but the reality is that growth has slowed, the economy hasn't yet fully recovered from the recession, and there's not an overwhelming economic driver to pile it on like you see in Boston (life sciences), Houston (energy), SF/Austin/Seattle (tech and life sciences), and a couple other places.

Buckhead's kind of where most of the action is nowadays...at least the following:

5 cranes for Buckhead Atlanta
1 crane for Skyhouse Buckhead
1 crane for Atlantic Realty's project
1 crane for Crescent Terminus (probably going to come down soon)

And I believe there is a crane up for Post Alexander, and if not, it's coming soon. So 8-9 cranes for mostly towers in Buckhead is definitely where the construction is at. It is ok to point out, though, that Buckhead is as far from Midtown/Downtown as Bryn Mawr is from Center City Philadelphia and Oakland is from San Francisco and Medford is from Boston. In most cities, that would not be "city limits". I look forward to seeing the proposals in Atlanta become reality (I say the same thing about Philadelphia which definitely has more towers already going up than Atlanta even if it has fewer tower cranes, but has a lot of crazy awesome proposals that haven't started yet).

The other thing about Atlanta is that it uses a lot of cranes for individual projects (formerly 2 at the College Football HoF, 5 at Buckhead Atlanta, 2 for the Emory Proton Therapy building, I think 2 for Cox's new building up in the burbs, there were 2 for 77 12th, etc etc). I've never seen as much doubling down as I have there...of all the projects in SF, only two have more than 1 crane: One is 2 towers/2 mid-rises, and the other is a $650M museum expansion.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:31 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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LA has a lot on its docket already listed. One thing I didn't see listed was the planned conversion of the Library Tower (tallest skyscraper west of Chicago) to partly residential and hotel. Similar to other megaprojects in LA, this possible conversion would be due to an influx of investment from East Asia. In this case, a Singaporean firm purchased the tower last year.

One thing I'm still curious about is why there doesn't seem to be a massive amount of investment from major Latin American firms doing megaprojects in LA as well. Have I missed something here?
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: The City
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Lots of detail on the new CTIC Tower in Philly

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...209%202014.pdf
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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MGM is wasting no time in Washington D.C. The MGM Grand National Harbor Casino and Resort is projected to be the most profitable casino outside of Las Vegas in the entire nation.


MGM National Harbor could break ground as soon as April (Video) - Washington Business Journal


MGM National Harbor - YouTube

The Capital Wheel at National Harbor - YouTube
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:27 PM
 
Location: The City
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MGM is wasting no time in Washington D.C. The MGM Grand National Harbor Casino and Resort is projected to be the most profitable casino outside of Las Vegas in the entire nation.


MGM National Harbor could break ground as soon as April (Video) - Washington Business Journal


MGM National Harbor - YouTube

The Capital Wheel at National Harbor - YouTube
Isn't Foxwoods in CT already the most profitable casino in America - more profitable than any in LV already?

and believe Borgata would have this crown overall or in total in AC - in reviewing this this i like 1/10th what Borgata is in AC - I just don't believe that proposal is even close. It looks slightly better (if that) than sugar house or Parx in PA and below the Bethleham casino to be honest

PA Table Games Revenue Up 3.3% in February - The Business Journals

I love your zest but thee places are a dime a dozen in the US sadly (I hate PA gambling) here are two of the latest proposals in Philly - to be determined in April for the last Philly Casino license


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvvQMF8NoNg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPpy549Bfw

not saying better but casinos do not chnge a place - LV is a draw, AC sort of - everything takes money from the poor mostly, its not really that special

Now Borgata is in this sense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wg...3E3B9C97E2E07B

or even Revel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAZf...0678220122F1A2

or even Trop looks far more impressive to me
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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I thought DC was already one big casino. Whether or not it is the most profitable depends I suppose.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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MGM is wasting no time in Washington D.C. The MGM Grand National Harbor Casino and Resort is projected to be the most profitable casino outside of Las Vegas in the entire nation.
How can they project a casino be the most profitable I'm the US before it is even constructed?! Haha. That's just silly.

Revel and Borgota in Atlantic City wipe the floor with this casino proposal.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Isn't Foxwoods in CT already the most profitable casino in America - more profitable than any in LV already?

and believe Borgata would have this crown overall or in total in AC - in reviewing this this i like 1/10th what Borgata is in AC - I just don't believe that proposal is even close. It looks slightly better (if that) than sugar house or Parx in PA and below the Bethleham casino to be honest

PA Table Games Revenue Up 3.3% in February - The Business Journals

I love your zest but thee places are a dime a dozen in the US sadly (I hate PA gambling) here are two of the latest proposals in Philly - to be determined in April for the last Philly Casino license


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvvQMF8NoNg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPpy549Bfw

not saying better but casinos do not chnge a place - LV is a draw, AC sort of - everything takes money from the poor mostly, its not really that special

Now Borgata is in this sense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wg...3E3B9C97E2E07B

or even Revel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAZf...0678220122F1A2

or even Trop looks far more impressive to me

I don't know, that is what MGM said. Don't shoot the messenger. Take that up with them.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Interesting nomenclature: "The Transbay District", wonder if it'll stick.

Anyway its funny that the Transbay Tower design is the most boring imo of all the projects mentioned in the article below.

Photos: In Transbay District, There Will Be Starchitecture: SFist
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