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View Poll Results: Which state do you prefer?
Ohio 44 48.89%
Georgia 38 42.22%
Neither 8 8.89%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-10-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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No comparison possible,Georgia is the place to be.

Some famous georgians :

Conrad Aiken poet, Savannah
James Bowie soldier, Burke County
Jim Brown actor, athlete, St. Simons Island
Erskine Caldwell writer, Moreland
James E. Carter U.S. president, Plains
Ray Charles singer, Albany
Lucius D. Clay banker, general, Marietta
Ty Cobb baseball player, Narrows
Charles Coburn movie and TV actor, Macon
Ossie Davis actor, writer, Cogdell
James Dickey poet, Atlanta
Mattiwilda Dobbs soprano, Atlanta
Melvyn Douglas actor, Macon
Pete Drake musician/record producer, Augusta
Rebecca Latimer Felton first appointed woman U.S. senator, Decatur
Lawrence Fishburne III actor, Augusta
Henry W. Grady journalist, Athens
Amy Grant singer, Augusta
Oliver Hardy comedian, Harlem
Joel Chandler Harris journalist, author, Eatonton
Roland Hayes singer, Curyville
Fletcher Henderson musician/songwriter, Cuthbert
Hulk Hogan professional wrestler, Augusta
John Henry Doc Holliday western hero, Griffin
Larry Holmes boxer, Cuthert
Miriam Hopkins actress, Bainbridge
Harry James trumpeter, Albany
Jasper Johns painter, sculptor, Augusta
Bobby Jones golfer, Atlanta
Stacy Keach actor, Savannah
DeForest Kelley actor, Atlanta
Martin Luther King, Jr. civil rights leader, Atlanta
Gladys Knight singer, Atlanta
Joseph R. Lamar jurist, Elbert
Brenda Lee singer, Lithonia
Juliette Gordon Low U.S. Girl Scouts founder, Savannah
Carson McCullers author, Columbus
Blind Willie McTell blues pioneer, Thomson
Johnny Mercer songwriter, Savannah
Margaret Mitchell author, Atlanta
John Robert Johnny Mize baseball player, Demorest
Jessye Norman singer, Augusta
Otis Redding singer, Dawson
Jerry Reed singer/songwriter/actor, Atlanta
Burt Reynolds actor, Waycross
Little Richard singer, Macon
Jackie Robinson baseball player, Cairo
Tommy Roe singer/songwriter, Alpharetta
Billy Joe Royal singer, Valdosta
Dean Rusk secretary of state, Cherokee Cty
Nipsey Russell comedian, Atlanta
Ray Stevens singer/songwriter, Clarksdale
Janelle Taylor romance novelist, Athens
Clarence Thomas supreme court associate justice, Savannah
Travis Tritt singer/songwriter, Marietta
Alice Walker author, Eatonton
Joanne Woodward actress, Thomasville
Trisha Yearwood singer, Monticello

 
Old 02-10-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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Not necessarily true, but nevertheless you're entitled to an opinion.
I know not everyone hates it, just a joke. But it's definitely a niche food not wildly popular outside of Greater Cincy.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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I know not everyone hates it, just a joke. But it's definitely a niche food not wildly popular outside of Greater Cincy.
You've obviously not been exposed to the culinary world and its finer publications. Numerous cooking magazines and cook books have featured descriptions and recipes for Cincinnati Chili--including "Fine Cooking,""Cook's Illustrated,""Country Cooking,""Saveur,"and "Taste of Home." Even the well-known "King Arthur Flour" website, in 2008, provided a recipe for this unique chili. All the aforementioned professional sources cater to a wide readership from across the country--therefore, it's easy to conclude that the appeal of Cincinnati Chili extends far beyond the Queen City itself.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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As I asked the op long ago here, "Why did you create this thread..?" It did not seem as though it really was done in an attempt to learn anything through listening to each other or to spread knowledge.
Unfortunately it smacked of being a flame war right from the beginning & it has gone straight down that path, complete with personal insults & namecalling.
This thread needs to be terminated.
And it will very soon....
 
Old 02-10-2014, 02:34 PM
 
Location: somewhere flat
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To be fair, everyone thinks Cincinnati chili is gross, except people in Cincinnati.

Not true. I'm from the Cleveland area and I love Cincinnati chili.

Oh by the way, another vote for the Great State of Ohio!
 
Old 02-10-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Both states are ranked in the C's for infrastructure. If Georgia's is better, it's not by much, and I have to wonder what will happen when all that newer infrastructure starts to show its age. Legacy infrastructure costs are the real killer.

All states spend money to keep companies they already have. You're saying Georgia doesn't? Please.

You guys tried to take Wendy's. They came back. How much did that cost Georgia?

Ohio has the largest private research firm in the world, with Batelle. Who cares what 2nd rate organization you have.

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The combined Wendy's/Arby's had about 400 employees in Atlanta. About 200 will remain to work for Wendy's in jobs including information technology and accounting while another 120 will work for Arby's. They won't be on the same floors as their Wendy's counterparts.
About 50 positions, including executive jobs, will move back to Ohio, and the rest of the jobs will be eliminated.
Overall, the economic loss to Atlanta is negligible.
Wendy's headquarters leaving Atlanta for Ohio - USATODAY.com

I said Georgia's infrastructure was better.Not perfect.
Some you Ohioans made comments about GA infrastructure.You were wrong.

Battelle maybe larger but to say GTRI is "second rate" is you being immature and wrong.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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North Dakota is the fastest-growing state in the US. Do all those people really like North Dakota, or is it based on economics? You can pretty much overlook almost anything if you have a good job. Weather, geography, even cultural amenities are all very low on the list of importance, and that is shown time and time again by Census surveys on migration. The same is true for Georgia, Ohio and every other state. Believe it or not, not everyone moving to Georgia does so because they're in love with it, nor does everyone moving out of Ohio do so because they hate it there.
Of course they don't.But more STAY than leave.That was the point.Ohio is loosing population.
It was 45th in growth!That is what it is all about.You can give any reason but at the end of the day,GA is doing something better than Ohio.

North Dakota has oil.


Georgia is more expensive than Ohio: Cost of Living 2nd Quarter 2013 If people are moving to Georgia from Ohio for that reason, they didn't do their research.

No, they move to Georgia because of things like perceived COL or the expectation that they can easily find a job vs. where they're moving from. Those things aren't necessarily true anymore, but perception of something being true can outlast a change in reality. Georgia, and indeed the rest of the Sun Belt, does not exist outside of the realities of why people move from state to state or region to region. It's not high school and this isn't a popularity contest. Economics, or even the perception of them, trumps everything else. They move to Ohio for the same reasons they would move to Georgia. The bottom line is, there is nothing special about why people move there.

If its the same reason why are the outcomes different?
Ohio is largely STILL loosing people at a much faster rate
I does not matter WHY people are moving somewhere versus others if you know this informatin and yet it is not stopping a downward trend.



People don't move for weather, though. Or more to the fact, less than 1% of all annual state to state or regional moves are climate-related. That tends to be about 500 people or less, spread over 50 states. Most people couldn't give a crap about Georgia's weather vs. the North, or vice versa. This is a myth and people should really stop repeating it.

Yet all those people decades ago left the Rust Belt where the had jobs for the South Those jobs did not move South.They were created South

Atlanta is Georgia's economic center, much like Chicago is Illinois'. It's one of the nation's largest cities. So why wouldn't it have attraction to foreign and domestic companies? I don't think I was arguing against that, anyway.

Georgia may be entering a period of problems, though. Its labor force has been dropping every month since early 2013 and is now about where it was during the peak of the recession. Not that Ohio's is great, either, but if we're talking about how terrible Ohio is doing economically, you have to wonder why this is happening. 2013 was also one of Georgia's slowest years for growth since 1989. Since the recession, the state has had a string of very weak domestic growth years, especially compared to pre-recession during the 2000s and 1990s. International migration has been trending down gradually since about 2001. In fact, in 2013, Georgia lost people domestically for the first time in decades and saw its international growth slow even more. Some of this is probably related to less people moving than they used to, as it is happening in most states. It also may be an indication that the Sun Belt boom is seeing the beginning of its end. It was never going to last forever. Meanwhile, though, Ohio had its strongest growth since pre-recession. Its international growth was the highest since 2001 while its domestic rate was the best since 1996.
All these factors have been trending down across the U.S. but it has not stopped by any means.
Georgia did not loose population.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Columbus (not the GA one) grew by almost 11% or over 75,000, when Atlanta the city couldn't find anyone to move there. If Atlanta had the fastest-growing core, the rest of the city must've been emptying out to end up with a growth that low.

Suburban growth is declining everywhere, but it still makes up the majority of growth in most major cities, particularly in the South.
Did you not read the map I posted several pages back?

False.Suburban growth is NOT shrinking everywhere.
Several cities across the U.S. have suburbs growing faster than the the city.Atlanta is ONE of the exception.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Prove it


Look at the companies your state bought and then get back to me.


*Georgia



*research

I can name a few off the top of my head.
UPS(early 90's)
Newell Rubbermaid
NCR
Porshe North America

Kia Plant

Id say money well spent.Don't get mad because GA plays the game better.

Maybe JobsOhio or whatever it is will pan out.


You prove it.You have the problem comprehending.

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Old 02-10-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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You've obviously not been exposed to the culinary world and its finer publications. Numerous cooking magazines and cook books have featured descriptions and recipes for Cincinnati Chili--including "Fine Cooking,""Cook's Illustrated,""Country Cooking,""Saveur,"and "Taste of Home." Even the well-known "King Arthur Flour" website, in 2008, provided a recipe for this unique chili. All the aforementioned professional sources cater to a wide readership from across the country--therefore, it's easy to conclude that the appeal of Cincinnati Chili extends far beyond the Queen City itself.
I know right!? I was elated to find Graeter's and Skyline in my Publix freezers chile! So addictive.
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