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Old 10-22-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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Wife just came back from Denver. She unpromptedly declared everyone there is gorgeous.
With Colorado having the lowest obesity rate in the country, and having taller people than in California, I'm not surprised that people look attractive there.

Interestingly, California has some of the shortest men in the country, even if you're only looking at white men. You can google this. I know because in California I (Chinese American man) am a giant, being 6' 1", I am much taller than even the white men there. Going to other states I still am taller than average but I don't feel as giant.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:45 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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If you haven’t been why do you hate it so much? There’s a lot of animosity for a thing that I would assume has had no negative impact in your life?


And population and money is pretty nice.
Population and money are nice until the realization sets in that the place isn't going to do anything about infrastructure and housing. Look at some of these cities that are booming in population with no plan in place for infrastructure- COL goes up while mediocrity remains. Pittsburgh is the opposite of this.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: OC
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Population and money are nice until the realization sets in that the place isn't going to do anything about infrastructure and housing. Look at some of these cities that are booming in population with no plan in place for infrastructure- COL goes up while mediocrity remains. Pittsburgh is the opposite of this.
Seattle, Denver and Portland have decent infrastructure.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Seattle, Denver and Portland have decent infrastructure.
Yes I was referring to Columbus and Austin, though it was only recently when Seattle came up to par.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: OC
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And that's the condescending "go live in a dying city, then, you peasant" sentiment that is pervasive in rapidly gentrifying cities. So appealing!

Luckily there are still some happy mediums between OC and Erie, even here in the West.
Say what? I think you misinterpreted my statement.
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:28 AM
 
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Seattle, Denver and Portland have decent infrastructure.
Not Portland. They have ridiculously bad traffic for a smaller metro area that isn't a state capital or even has as much industry as Austin does. At least Austin MSA congestion can be explained by a 29% growth in the past decade, while Portland MSA has only grown 12% in the last decade. Why the horrible traffic in Portland? Mist be because they have a tiny freeway system with narrow freeways, most of which don't even have HOV or express lanes. They invested too much in their light rail system instead of building more freeways.

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Old 10-22-2020, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Not Portland. They have ridiculously bad traffic for a smaller metro area that isn't a state capital or even has as much industry as Austin does. At least Austin MSA congestion can be explained by a 29% growth in the past decade, while Portland MSA has only grown 12% in the last decade. Why the horrible traffic in Portland? Mist be because they have a tiny freeway system with narrow freeways, most of which don't even have HOV or express lanes. They invested too much in their light rail system instead of building more freeways.
Agree, Seattle proper has way better traffic than Portland proper. The bus system is better too. Seattle is also building a more future proof lightrail system that actually goes to places people want to go and is a grade separated from surface traffic (UW, Capitol Hill, downtown, Chinatown, airport, Eastside burbs, Northgate).
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:24 AM
 
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Agree, Seattle proper has way better traffic than Portland proper. The bus system is better too. Seattle is also building a more future proof lightrail system that actually goes to places people want to go and is a grade separated from surface traffic (UW, Capitol Hill, downtown, Chinatown, airport, Eastside burbs, Northgate).
I'm usually skeptical of cities West of the Mississippi building new rail transit, but I think Seattle and SF are exceptions. Seattle is doing everything right--its population growth is rapid, especially in Downtown. And as you mentioned, the light rail is actually going to major job centers, including Bellevue (or soon will be).

The only problem might be if CHAZ and Covid continue to tarnish the reputation of Downtown Seattle and push residents to the suburbs.

Just my thoughts, but last time I've been to Seattle was in 2011, so you know better.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:47 AM
 
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Not Portland. They have ridiculously bad traffic for a smaller metro area that isn't a state capital or even has as much industry as Austin does. At least Austin MSA congestion can be explained by a 29% growth in the past decade, while Portland MSA has only grown 12% in the last decade. Why the horrible traffic in Portland? Mist be because they have a tiny freeway system with narrow freeways, most of which don't even have HOV or express lanes. They invested too much in their light rail system instead of building more freeways.
Your opinion about freeways vs rail is opposite from any urban planner in the planet.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:02 AM
 
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Agree, Seattle proper has way better traffic than Portland proper. The bus system is better too. Seattle is also building a more future proof lightrail system that actually goes to places people want to go and is a grade separated from surface traffic (UW, Capitol Hill, downtown, Chinatown, airport, Eastside burbs, Northgate).
Hmm - pre-Covid I don’t think I agree with that. Seattle traffic was horrible not just on the highways but on the side streets as well. It could take an hour to travel 5-10 miles. Portland traffic is horrendous on the Columbia River Crossing but otherwise I think Seattle is worse overall. With Covid Seattle’s traffic has improved a lot and I haven’t been to Portland since last year so I’m not sure how they compare right now though.
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