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Old 10-24-2020, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Possibly Nashville or Austin? I feel like Denver and Seattle have always been very different. Not the same brand at all.
Denver and Seattle seem like long lost twins to me. Almlst all of the same values exist in both. Nashville and Austin feel too small.
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Old 10-24-2020, 05:56 PM
 
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But is Seattle employment really that centralized?
Its white collar employment is VERY centralized. The Seattle core and Eastside (Bellevue/Redmond/Kirkland/Issaquah) are probably over 85% of the office market iirc, including owner-occupied buildings not typically counted by the brokerages.

Industrial, manufacturing, retail, schools, etc., are far more spread out of course.
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:42 PM
 
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Denver and Seattle seem like long lost twins to me. Almlst all of the same values exist in both. Nashville and Austin feel too small.
I agree - putting weather aside, they have a lot of similarities.
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Old 10-24-2020, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I agree - putting weather aside, they have a lot of similarities.
Yeah I don't see how anyone would disagree. Oh and swap Asians for Latinos. Boom. Denttle.
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Old 10-24-2020, 11:32 PM
 
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Not really. Seattle is MUCH more transit oriented, much more immigrant-oriented, more touristy at its center, richer, more HQ-oriented, more techy, and denser.

Transit for example...per the 2019 ACS, transit commute shares:

Seattle city-of: 25.1%
Denver city-of: 7.6%

Seattle metro: 10.7%
Denver metro: 4.5%
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:01 AM
 
Location: SLC > DC
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Not really. Seattle is MUCH more transit oriented, much more immigrant-oriented, more touristy at its center, richer, more HQ-oriented, more techy, and denser.

Transit for example...per the 2019 ACS, transit commute shares:

Seattle city-of: 25.1%
Denver city-of: 7.6%

Seattle metro: 10.7%
Denver metro: 4.5%
I see you bring up transit commute share often. People ride transit less often in Denver than Seattle to get to work, but so what? Clearly Denver residents just prefer to drive. It’s no NY or Chicago but the option is at least there and pretty decent too.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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One thing Seattle has over Denver is water. I think Seattle has the most extensive and high volume ferry system in the country.


Took the public ferry to get brunch with the kids today. It was nice and a great form of public transit in the era of Covid. It was hopping with families. (Own work Oct 24 2020)

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People ride transit less often in Denver than Seattle to get to work, but so what? Clearly Denver residents just prefer to drive. It’s no NY or Chicago but the option is at least there and pretty decent too.
"But so what?" I think the other poster was using transit ridership as one example of how Denver is not quite as similar to Seattle as some people on here think.

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Old 10-25-2020, 01:41 AM
 
Location: SLC > DC
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One thing Seattle has over Denver is water. I think Seattle has the most extensive and high volume ferry system in the country.


Took the public ferry to get brunch with the kids today. It was nice and a great form of public transit in the era of Covid. (Own work Oct 24 2020)


"But so what?" I think the other poster was using transit ridership as one example of how Denver is not quite as similar to Seattle as some people on here think.
Similar doesn’t mean the same. Some say Salt Lake City and Denver are similar in some regards. Does that mean SLC is competing with Denver in certain categories? Not really.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, JAPAN
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Not really. Seattle is MUCH more transit oriented, much more immigrant-oriented, more touristy at its center, richer, more HQ-oriented, more techy, and denser.

Transit for example...per the 2019 ACS, transit commute shares:

Seattle city-of: 25.1%
Denver city-of: 7.6%

Seattle metro: 10.7%
Denver metro: 4.5%
Yeah, I agree that there are a lot of big differences if you look at the stats:

Murder rate:
Seattle: 3.74
Denver: 8.35

Property crime rate:
Seattle: 5258.64
Denver: 3667.06

Transit usage:
Seattle: 25.1%
Denver: 7.6%

Car-free (metro):
Seattle: 8.01%
Denver: 5.81%

Percentage of 20+ unit residential:
Seattle: 35.2%
Denver: 30%

Walkscore:
Seattle: 74
Denver: 61

Foreign-born:
Seattle: 19.3%
Denver: 11.8%

Asian (metro):
Seattle: 14.6%
Denver: 4.3%

White (metro)
Seattle: 66%
Denver: 80.7%

Hispanic (metro):
Seattle: 10.4%
Denver: 23.3%

Immigration growth (2010-2019):
Seattle: 194,671
Denver: 38,911

Non-white population growth (metro, 2010-2019):
Seattle: 38.25%
Denver: 23.71%

White population growth (metro, 2010-2019):
Seattle: 4.63%
Denver: 11.82%

Foreign-born Mexican population (metro, 2010-2019):
Seattle: +3,757
Denver: -15,607

The only stats I see that are really close are age, educational attainment (BA for those over 25 years of age is around 44-45% for both metros, and poverty which is 7.8% for Seattle 7.9% for Denver).
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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White collar employment is centralized for sure. But Seattle has some blue collar Employment hubs like Boeing spread throughout the region.
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