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Old 10-14-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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From their perspective, though, access is access. Does it make a difference whether you've got 10 Aston Martins in your garage or a hooptie?
Yeah I think people are reading into this study to much (the editorializing of "best" in the article's title doesn't help things), it's just access. Yes the vast majority of people in LA do not take advantage of the access they have, because driving is usually faster and more convenient. But it does not mean that access doesn't exist. LA is a decent-at-best city for commuting with PT, certainly not top 3. But I cannot imagine a job that is not accessible by a bus, unless it is up in the mountains working on a vineyard or farm or cult or something.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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In metro Barcelona, 60% of residents live within 600 meters of a subway station. In metro Atlanta, 4% of residents live within 600 meters of a subway station. In order for Atlanta to have the same transit coverage as Barcelona, it would need to have 3,400 subway stations.

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It really shows how bad mass transit is compared to many other countries in the world. Even countries like Brazil are starting catching up to the United States when it comes to mass transit. I even created a thread on that very topic on the Americas forum.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Well if you include the other transit agencies in the Philly area, the River Line was built in 2004. So it's not like there hasn't been any new rail lines since the 1950's. You can't just look at only SEPTA because you would pigeon-hole your entire argument in regards to talking about transportation in and around Philadelphia.
I'm talking about SEPTA lines since SEPTA is the heavy rail in the city of Philadelphia. Note that I mentioned nothing of MARC or VRE in the DC area, for example, because those serve a completely different function from rapid transit lines.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I'm talking about SEPTA lines since SEPTA is the heavy rail in the city of Philadelphia. Note that I mentioned nothing of MARC or VRE in the DC area, for example, because those serve a completely different function from rapid transit lines.
SEPTA isn't the only heavy rail rapid transit service in Philly.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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SEPTA isn't the only heavy rail rapid transit service in Philly.
Like I said, SEPTA is the heavy rail in the city of Philadelphia.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Like I said, SEPTA is the heavy rail in the city of Philadelphia.
So is the PATCO.


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Old 10-14-2014, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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So is the PATCO.
With its whopping four stops in the city of Philadelphia.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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With its whopping four stops in the city of Philadelphia.
That runs 24-hour subway service, 7 days a week like NYC.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yeah I think people are reading into this study to much (the editorializing of "best" in the article's title doesn't help things), it's just access. Yes the vast majority of people in LA do not take advantage of the access they have, because driving is usually faster and more convenient. But it does not mean that access doesn't exist. LA is a decent-at-best city for commuting with PT, certainly not top 3. But I cannot imagine a job that is not accessible by a bus, unless it is up in the mountains working on a vineyard or farm or cult or something.
At the end of the day, the percentage of of jobs with transit access is the most important thing. And that's even if it's low frequency, clumsy, low quality transit (beats no transit each and every day of the week).
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Old 10-15-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Paris
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This thread is competing with (and beating) the top 100 restaurants by gross revenue thread for the title of "Most argued about "study" that doesn't really talk about what the "study" says award" Here's to arguing about things/results that the study doesn't even present...
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