Which of these places will be the next 6 million persons (+) area in North America? (Phoenix, metro)
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If someone has to mention csa over msa (not saying mutiny is doing this), it's to somehow boast about a particular place to which they have positive feelings... I can only speak on places I know so for example...
DFW csa includes Sherman, Granbury, Corsicana...... ??? really,,, How many people in the metro can say they've been to those places. Those places are way different from the metro. Like night and day.
Same thing for Charlotte whose csa includes places like Shelby, NC or Raleigh whose csa includes Oxford, Dunn and Henderson... Hardly anyone in the metro knows of those tiny, one stop light towns.
OP didn't include miami and atlanta who would be next in line...
Out of the ones he did choose as options...
PHX is next in line. They are having great population growth.
CSAs have their place if you understand what it's measure and how they are delineated.
And I used to live in Charlotte and knew about Shelby; having a couple exits along I-85 helps with name recognition. But that's not really an issue specific to CSAs; you could say the same thing about small towns far removed from the central city within an MSA.
San Antonio and Austin are quickly becoming merged. The metros add a combined +103,947 roughly each year. If that continues they should cross the 6 million mark around 2032 using current growth rates.
CSA's work for some metros but not most. The Miami CSA is laughable IMO. Vero Beach is in Miami CSA.
Sure, they work (obviously just somewhat) for the idea that they were created for, but... the most popular use here on this site is by clueless homers who use them a bit differently:trying as hard as possible to boost their city's population numbers while somehow being under the delusion that most of us don't know any better...
As an aside, as someone who has lived in Tampa, this thread still makes me laugh...
Shocking to see San Diego/Tijuana with only one vote, goes back to my theory that people just vote for what they like rather than objectively.
San Diego/Tijuana is already 5.1 million with San Diego poised to add 340,000 people in the next 10 years and Tijuana poised to add 300,000 people in the next 10 years for a combined 640,000. So it will literally cross the 6 million line first.
Why would you link San Diego and Tijuana? They're metro areas in two different countries. Most San Diegans would never consider moving to Tijuana. Plus, San Diego isn't a "pro-growth" city at all. They fight growth at every opportunity. Any development there will be mostly in-fill and along established mass transit areas.
Of the cities you list, Phoenix and Orlando will see the most growth IMO.
Why would you link San Diego and Tijuana? They're metro areas in two different countries. Most San Diegans would never consider moving to Tijuana. Plus, San Diego isn't a "pro-growth" city at all. They fight growth at every opportunity. Any development there will be mostly in-fill and along established mass transit areas.
Of the cities you list, Phoenix and Orlando will see the most growth IMO.
Unfortunately that growth will most likely consist of adding suburbia to already very suburban cities.
San Antonio and Austin are quickly becoming merged. The metros add a combined +103,947 roughly each year. If that continues they should cross the 6 million mark around 2032 using current growth rates.
TO add to this....
Phoenix will also cross the 6 million person mark at the same time (17 years in 2032) assuming current growth rates of about 89,000 people a year.
Unfortunately that growth will most likely consist of adding suburbia to already very suburban cities.
Oh? Well, thank goodness for the thousands of multifamily units and infill under construction or planning especially in Tempe and Phoenix (midtown, downtown, Biltmore/Arcadia, Camelback Corridor, 16th St, Eastlake, etc).
Oh? Well, thank goodness for the thousands of multifamily units and infill under construction or planning especially in Tempe and Phoenix (midtown, downtown, Biltmore/Arcadia, Camelback Corridor, 16th St, Eastlake, etc).
Exactly. You are forgetting Scottsdale though, where I feel like huge(very nice) apartments are coming up almost daily lol. As more and more young ppl move here more and more apartments will be put up. We will hopefully not mirror the enormous sprawl that LA county/SB county have before it's too late.
I am surprised Phoenix is not over the 6 million mark already that metro is growing like crazy for 10-15 now straight.
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