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I don't think this is true. I know for sure there's a gap between SEPTA (Newark, DE) and MARC (Perryville, MD), and believe there might be one in Connecticut, as well.
There is a gap in CT between Springfield and New Haven.
I don't think this is true. I know for sure there's a gap between SEPTA (Newark, DE) and MARC (Perryville, MD), and believe there might be one in Connecticut, as well.
New Haven-Springfield Commuter Rail is about to start, so you are about to have continuous commuter rail from Mass to Maryland. Has nothing to do with creating a mega-CSA.
Why? Why would a commuter rail extension make any difference?
Commuter rail lines have very light ridership in the U.S., especially in fringe areas. There's already massive road infrastructure connecting the cities, there's just no reason for large numbers of people to make such a daily commute.
Again, supercommuting is due to high housing costs. Has nothing to do with building a freeways or rail lines. You can ride commuter rail straight through from Springfield, MA to suburban Baltimore (including the busiest stretch of commuter rail in the Americas), doesn't mean it's one CSA (and the Northeast, unlike the Midwest, has high housing costs).
Because commuter rail means fairly frequent, speedy, and cheap service for all parts in between and the metros will end up sharing a large commuter shed in between which will grow in population, on the other side of the coin, the presence of commuter rail service directly between the two means that there is enough demand to justify it. It's likely that within a decade of direct downtown Milwaukee to downtown Chicago service, the two would become a CSA.
What commuter service takes you from Springfield to suburban Baltimore?
I guess Massachusetts is part of the NYC metro, using the "commuter rail will create a mega-CSA" logic.
Well there is a gap for now. It is getting completed, but there is still a gap. Won't be launched until 2018. So that's 18 more months of no connections
I guess Massachusetts is part of the NYC metro, using the "commuter rail will create a mega-CSA" logic.
Yea, that's be pretty likely within short time if Springfield does direct one-seat service to midtown with major employment center stops in between at pretty average commuter rail prices and frequencies.
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New Haven-Springfield Commuter Rail is about to start, so you are about to have continuous commuter rail from Mass to Maryland. Has nothing to do with creating a mega-CSA.
That's awesome, but it hasn't started yet. And that's still a moot issue, as your initial claim was from Springfield, MA to suburban Baltimore. Perryville, MD (Cecil County) is not suburban Baltimore, and it is still disconnected from suburban Philadelphia (New Castle County) via commuter rail.
Also not following your argument about supercommuting, which seems to have been blown up to the extreme (MA to MD) for exaggeration, when Chicago to Milwaukee is a doable, if not ideal, distance, in line with Philadelphia to New York in terms of cost, distance and time (barring Acela). Commuter rail extension would absolutely make Milwaukee to Chicago a possible CSA, or at least a technical one.
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I'm poaching many of Red John's previous stats provided, thanks for all that you do Red John:
Top Foreign Investment Capitals of North America by Total Valuation, 2015
01. New York: $74,799,870,615
02. Los Angeles: $37,457,376,509 03. San Francisco: $32,355,485,613
04. Chicago: $20,036,200,994
05. Washington D.C.: $18,515,548,212
06. Dallas/Fort Worth: $16,296,780,618
07. Atlanta: $16,022,394,226
08. Miami: $15,949,703,541
09. Boston: $15,365,776,426
10. Houston: $12,365,902,892
Global Cities Index, 2016: 02. New York
06. Los Angeles 07. Chicago
10. Washington D.C.
17. Toronto 23. San Francisco
24. Boston
Global Cities Outlook, 2016: 01. San Francisco
02. New York
03. Boston
05. Houston
06. Atlanta 11. Chicago
18. Toronto
20. Dallas
21. Los Angeles
25. Vancouver
Global Elite Cities, 2016: - New York
- Los Angeles - Chicago
- Toronto - San Francisco
- Boston
Top Financial Centers in North America:
02. New York: 792 07. Washington D.C.: 712
08. San Francisco: 711
09. Boston: 709
10. Toronto: 707 11. Chicago: 706
21. Montreal: 686
22. Vancouver: 684
28. Calgary: 671
29. Los Angeles: 670
53. Mexico City: 626
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Chicago blows the other two away at city and MSA level. As someone else pointed out, Chicago doesn't really have a CSA. The difference between the Chicago MSA and CSA is 200k people.
Chicago has also 3 million more people than DC MSA, and 5 million more than SF MSA. If Chicago had Minneapolis 40 miles away from it you would see the same effect in its MSA/CSA relationship.
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