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Again, you're conflating institutional racism with a culture of racism. LAs black community has been brutalized by the police for decades, and reached a boiling point. The busing riots were closer to a lynching; racist vigilantes attached minorities.
I lived in New York in the 90s, and I remember New York's racial tension. I remember Crown Heights and Bensonhurst. I felt about is comfortable in Southie in 2011 as I would have in Bensonhurst of the 90s. Boston is what, 26% black? Does Boston even have a black radio station? It didn't when I left.
WILD 1090 used to be the traditional Black radio station, but is now an Asian station.
It's about time. When I was there, WJMN was the closest thing to black radio, but most of the on-air talent wasn't black, and they played artists like Katy Perry and Mike Posner along with the hip-hop and R&B
Again, you're conflating institutional racism with a culture of racism. LAs black community has been brutalized by the police for decades, and reached a boiling point. The busing riots were closer to a lynching; racist vigilantes attached minorities.
I lived in New York in the 90s, and I remember New York's racial tension. I remember Crown Heights and Bensonhurst. I felt about is comfortable in Southie in 2011 as I would have in Bensonhurst of the 90s. Boston is what, 26% black? Does Boston even have a black radio station? It didn't when I left.
just so you are aware, bostons black percentage is similar to new york city (neither is overwhelmingly black). not sure when you left but boston has 3 black owned radio stations (1 of which is a pirate soca station so i dont think it technically counts; also 1090 am wild shut down a few years ago so i didnt count that). not sure if nyc has a black owned radio station (hot-97 is owned by clear channel, iirc (i assume has black management)); the clear channel syndicate in boston is 94.5 which is noticibly corny-er but i beleive has hispanic management). this is tangentially relevant since it goes into control of the local media.
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It's about time. When I was there, WJMN was the closest thing to black radio, but most of the on-air talent wasn't black, and they played artists like Katy Perry and Mike Posner along with the hip-hop and R&B
i think your limiting black radio with just rap and hip-hop. there are a few soca/calypso/compas stations in the boston area.
Just checked a list of metro areas and cities with largest population of AA's and Boston is nowhere near it's contemporaries (NYC, Philly, DC, Chicago, LA, SF, etc.)
Boston is diverse, but it's NOT very black whatsoever. Some people are turned off by that. For such a liberal and progressive place, there is surprisingly an air of subtle racism that is rooted in the region that makes it more exclusive and unwelcoming to AA's. Im not suggesting NO black people like, love or live in Boston and I know plenty who love their sports teams, but in comparison with the others, the difference is stark.
There isn't even a traditionally black neighborhood like a Harlem, South Side, Compton, where a lot of AA history and notable figures come from within the entire AA community.
Boston is blacker than LA or SF, and it had a semi-famous black community; Roxbury. However, I agree that Roxbury lacks the cultural cachet and political power that Harlem and the South Side have. Boston has a decent black population, but not much of a black voice.
Within the black community, we have stereotypes about black peoples from different cities. Black people from NY, Philly, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, LA and the Bay all have an identity. I can't say that for Boston, and I'm a black man who lived there.
Is this accurate? Most police forces in the country have a residency requirement, and could've swore the NYPD is no different...
It probably is accurate. You don't have to live in the city-only a surrounding county (Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Putnam, Nassau, or Suffolk county), and all the Cops in the NYPD I know live on Long Island.
I don't think it makes sense personally but I guess the COL in NYC can be prohibitive for New York Cops (starting salary for Philly Cops-where there is a city residency requirement- has always been higher than NYPD for example). I think more Cops should live in even the neighborhood they are assigned.
Boston is blacker than LA or SF, and it had a semi-famous black community; Roxbury. However, I agree that Roxbury lacks the cultural cachet and political power that Harlem and the South Side have. Boston has a decent black population, but not much of a black voice.
Within the black community, we have stereotypes about black peoples from different cities. Black people from NY, Philly, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, LA and the Bay all have an identity. I can't say that for Boston, and I'm a black man who lived there.
I think much of this is historic. Boston has a huge White democratic base, and never had an African American Community larger than about 25%., DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc all peaked around of above 40%. In those places of the country Black People are the Democratic party, thus Black People have a more distinct voice.
While in Boston, Democratic voting was based of religion, Catholics were Democrats and Protestants were Republicans. The Massachusetts Democratic machine stayed intact through party realignment, while most states fractured. Massachusetts was one of the few states Obama won the white vote. With the majority of BOTH statewide parties being White, black people do get underrepresented.
However, Massachusetts has had both a Black Governor and 2 Black Senators (though only 1 elected, 1 appointed).
I think much of this is historic. Boston has a huge White democratic base, and never had an African American Community larger than about 25%., DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc all peaked around of above 40%. In those places of the country Black People are the Democratic party, thus Black People have a more distinct voice.
While in Boston, Democratic voting was based of religion, Catholics were Democrats and Protestants were Republicans. The Massachusetts Democratic machine stayed intact through party realignment, while most states fractured. Massachusetts was one of the few states Obama won the white vote. With the majority of BOTH statewide parties being White, black people do get underrepresented.
However, Massachusetts has had both a Black Governor and 2 Black Senators (though only 1 elected, 1 appointed).
Boston did have a Black middle class on Beacon Hill well over a century and does a recognizable Black history. Crispus Attucks was from Framingham and look up Paul Cuffe. Farrakhan and Malcolm X had/have ties to the area. Don't forget New Edition, Donna Summer, Pat Ewing(grew up partially Cambridge where his HS Basketball coach was Mike Jarvis) and others.
Randolph and Brockton are currently about 43 and 39% Black. They 1 and 2 in the state of MA in Black percentage. Both are near each other south of Boston. Boston is 3rd and Springfield at about 22% is 4th. Boston suburbs in the top 10 are: Everett(17% and 6th), Milton(14% and 8th), Malden(13.2% and 9th) and Lynn(12.5% and 10th).
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Boston hasn't had an incident of blatant institutional racism since 1989 when the Charles Stuart scandal happened. And even in that case, no black Bostonians were killed, injured, or falsely imprisoned, which is more than can be said for racially-based atrocities that have happened since 1989 in cities like LA, NYC, Ferguson, Baltimore, and Charleston!
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Again, you're conflating institutional racism with a culture of racism.
Boston did have a Black middle class on Beacon Hill well over a century and does a recognizable Black history. Crispus Attucks was from Framingham and look up Paul Cuffe. Farrakhan and Malcolm X had/have ties to the area. Don't forget New Edition, Donna Summer, Pat Ewing(grew up partially Cambridge where his HS Basketball coach was Mike Jarvis) and others.
And while not hugely notable in the grand scheme of things, you also have this historical tidbit:
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