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Why is Miami not getting votes? Although it's not racial as much as it is ethnic. Isn't the tension between Cubans and non-hispanic whites/cubans vs. Haitians/dominicans/puerto ricans/ect, AA vs. Haitians/Jamaicans pretty prevalent?
This! I've experienced a lot of hatred just from my skin colour (white). Cubans and Puerto ricans gave me crap for not being Spanish or speaking it, and other name calling/other random stuff. Also between Hispanics and African Americans, i saw a lot of stuff go down at my school and it was a top rated school, and of course the name calling against whites.
This! I've experienced a lot of hatred just from my skin colour (white). Cubans and Puerto ricans gave me crap for not being Spanish or speaking it, and other name calling/other random stuff. Also between Hispanics and African Americans, i saw a lot of stuff go down at my school and it was a top rated school, and of course the name calling against whites.
As a white person I thought white people were complaining about racism in Miami because they weren't used to it...so in turn I thought that many of my white friends were just crying wolf or being overly sensitive/making it up. My cousin took a position in Miami and said the exact same thing all of my friends at university said about the city. Apparently the city really has an us vs. them mentality. I also have an African American friend from Miami gardens and BOY does she ever have some words to say about Haitians lol. Although the strange thing is I only hear about this in Miami...apparently Fort Lauderdale doesn't have this problem...maybe this is because FTL is mainly non-hispanic white and African American(and granted there aren't as many cubans in FTL).
Jeez, that's lopsided. I know the riots looked bad on t.v, but WOW.
The riots were more about the haves and have nots. Or black and blue, not black and white. They didn't care what color you were, if they wanted what you had, they were taking it.
Boston is notorious for racial disharmony. Buffalo is, too...
New York's multiculturalism somewhat hides some of its intolerance between races...
Really, the East Coast is full of areas with notable racial tensions. As a native of Metro Washington (Northern Virginia), however, I don't think it has so much racial issues as some other cities out here, particularly Baltimore, Buffalo, and Boston...
The large Southeast cities, on the whole, are much more tolerant than the large Northeast cities. Not as culturally diverse, mind you, but not as racially divisive. My experience, and I've been everywhere on East Coast besides Florida, Mass, NH, Vermont, and Maine...
Agreed.
I really think in Northern Virginia, and pretty much DC metro as a whole, it's much more about class than it is race. Here, it's normal for households, regardless of race, to rank in over $200,000 a year. That makes it hard to discriminate solely on race, I'm sure it happens but it's not as prominent.
I think think this is pretty hard to generalize, mainly because race relations in these cities fluctuate wildly over time.
--There was easily a time, during busing for school desegregation in the 70s, when Boston had by far the worst race relations. Everybody remembers the guy stabbing a black man with a US flag.
--Then there was the Giuliani mayoralty in NYC marked a low point in race relations here. EVERYBODY black hated Guiliani, who did his best to poison the well by pandering to white New Yorkers and insulting black ones.
--Crackhead Marion Berry didn't exactly send white folks' hearts aflutter. They hated the guy, and by extension much of black D.C. too. Didn't help that DC was both the national capital and the murder capital for a while.
--The Baltimore riots were a black/police issue, for sure, but I think people who think there wasn't a long, sorry history of messed up black/white relations BEFORE that are fooling themselves. It's not for nothing B'more is a majority black city.
You could go down the list of all these cities I'd wager and find an ebb and flow of low points in race relations. (I'm less familiar with the rest of the cities on the poll, though I suspect Atlanta shouldn't be on it while Newark NJ should be.) Bottom line is that the racial climate in a city is fluid, changing with economic growth or decline, and the quality of political leadership.
You want to know which city has it worst? Throw a dart. If it's not the worst today, give it time and it may be later. And it's calm and cool today you can bet that won't last forever either. That may be cynical. But as long as politicians can get some votes from race-baiting, it's the truth.
I think think this is pretty hard to generalize, mainly because race relations in these cities fluctuate wildly over time.
--There was easily a time, during busing for school desegregation in the 70s, when Boston had by far the worst race relations. Everybody remembers the guy stabbing a black man with a US flag.
--Then there was the Giuliani mayoralty in NYC marked a low point in race relations here. EVERYBODY black hated Guiliani, who did his best to poison the well by pandering to white New Yorkers and insulting black ones.
--Crackhead Marion Berry didn't exactly send white folks' hearts aflutter. They hated the guy, and by extension much of black D.C. too. Didn't help that DC was both the national capital and the murder capital for a while.
--The Baltimore riots were a black/police issue, for sure, but I think people who think there wasn't a long, sorry history of messed up black/white relations BEFORE that are fooling themselves. It's not for nothing B'more is a majority black city.
You could go down the list of all these cities I'd wager and find an ebb and flow of low points in race relations. (I'm less familiar with the rest of the cities on the poll, though I suspect Atlanta shouldn't be on it while Newark NJ should be.) Bottom line is that the racial climate in a city is fluid, changing with economic growth or decline, and the quality of political leadership.
You want to know which city has it worst? Throw a dart. If it's not the worst today, give it time and it may be later. And it's calm and cool today you can bet that won't last forever either. That may be cynical. But as long as politicians can get some votes from race-baiting, it's the truth.
^This and you can put any city up there for the reasons stated in this post.
Even in the South, a lot of the "inclusiveness" had to be forced, like Wake County and Raleigh forming a countywide school district in part to integrate area schools or a certain amount of Blacks on construction jobs in Atlanta in the 1970's. So, even places that appear to be alright weren't always and likely aren't that much different depends on the metrics one looks or uses.
According to Nancy Foner, 42% of second-generation West Indians in New York classify themselves simply as "African American." So there are a ton of Black New Yorkers nobody even thinks of as being West Indian. Most people would probably assume Stokley Carmichael was from Chicago or something, not a West Indian kid from the Bronx.
As a white person I thought white people were complaining about racism in Miami because they weren't used to it...so in turn I thought that many of my white friends were just crying wolf or being overly sensitive/making it up. My cousin took a position in Miami and said the exact same thing all of my friends at university said about the city. Apparently the city really has an us vs. them mentality. I also have an African American friend from Miami gardens and BOY does she ever have some words to say about Haitians lol. Although the strange thing is I only hear about this in Miami...apparently Fort Lauderdale doesn't have this problem...maybe this is because FTL is mainly non-hispanic white and African American(and granted there aren't as many cubans in FTL).
i found it a little annoying that will smith was bragging about shooting a house full of haititns in bad boys 2 but i thought he's just playing a part in a movie so i let it go (perhaps an honest portrayal ?).
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