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LA County/metropolitan being the exception, it is rather difficult to find statistics on murder rates based on metro or county. We all know when taken the suburbs into account, a metropolitan area will appear much safer as opposed to the city limits. Most murders occur in the main city proper, with LA County being the only one(or one of the few) where there are more murders in the suburbs and surrounding large urban centers than in LA itself.
It's not hard to find statistics about a metropolitan area at all. The FBI puts these numbers out every year. I guess if you're talking about current statistics, then you'd have a point. Otherwise, if you are concerned with 2016, 2015, etc (i.e. the previous years), then no it's not hard at all.
Majority of the murders still happen in L.A city proper but it's just the entire County is gang infested so the activity spreads"
Examples are Long beach & Compton,These are actually individual cities and not suburbs
"Majority of the murders still happen in L.A city proper" - this is literally true for every MSA, but actually it's not true for Los Angeles in 2016, according to the 2016 FBI UCR. The actual fact is that LA, outside of the city, actually had more homicides than inside the city for 2016. 386 of those were outside of the city of Los Angeles while 293 were inside the city of Los Angeles. Long Beach reported 33 of those while Compton reported 35.
In reality, the Los Angeles MSA has a fairly high homicide rate outside of its city limits compared to other metropolitan areas. This area's homicide rate is higher than the equivalent in areas such as Chicago, Dallas, NYC, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit, etc. However, equivalent areas in Houston, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Miami, and Atlanta are all higher than LA. Even if you omitted Long Beach from this calculation, the homicide rate calculation would only go down 0.15 per 100K and there would still be more homicides out of the city limits versus in the city limits.
I'll have a post on this in a bit..
P.S. While Long Beach is a sizable city, Compton is still a small city at under 100,000 people. There are numerous MSAs with cities of this size within them.
Last edited by marothisu; 11-11-2017 at 08:36 AM..
"Majority of the murders still happen in L.A city proper" - this is literally true for every MSA, but actually it's not true for Los Angeles in 2016, according to the 2016 FBI UCR. The actual fact is that LA, outside of the city, actually had more homicides than inside the city for 2016. 386 of those were outside of the city of Los Angeles while 293 were inside the city of Los Angeles. Long Beach reported 33 of those while Compton reported 35.
In reality, the Los Angeles MSA has a fairly high homicide rate outside of its city limits compared to other metropolitan areas. This area's homicide rate is higher than the equivalent in areas such as Chicago, Dallas, NYC, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit, etc. However, equivalent areas in Houston, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Miami, and Atlanta are all higher than LA.
I'll have a post on this in a bit..
The thing with Atlanta and Miami is that their city propers make up a small percent of their MSA's (less than 10), so it's all bit more understandable given that almost 90% live outside the city propers.
The thing with Atlanta and Miami is that their city propers make up a small percent of their MSA's (less than 10), so it's all bit more understandable given that almost 90% live outside the city propers.
Percentage wise you're right, sure - however, there are still MSAs out there with more people living outside of the principal city than Miami and Atlanta with lower rates. These include Chicago, Dallas, LA, and NYC. I think your point is valid, but isn't deterministic of why. At the same time though we're talking about rates, which means it's much harder to have a higher percentage of something when the overall total is a lot higher versus another. For example, 10 instances of something with 1 million total would be a rate of 1 per 100K. However, 3 instances of something with 250,000 total would be 1.2. The pure fact that places like Miami and Atlanta have higher rates outside of the main cities than places with much smaller population in that regard is not good at all.
Last edited by marothisu; 11-11-2017 at 09:43 AM..
"Majority of the murders still happen in L.A city proper" - this is literally true for every MSA, but actually it's not true for Los Angeles in 2016, according to the 2016 FBI UCR. The actual fact is that LA, outside of the city, actually had more homicides than inside the city for 2016. 386 of those were outside of the city of Los Angeles while 293 were inside the city of Los Angeles. Long Beach reported 33 of those while Compton reported 35.
In reality, the Los Angeles MSA has a fairly high homicide rate outside of its city limits compared to other metropolitan areas. This area's homicide rate is higher than the equivalent in areas such as Chicago, Dallas, NYC, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit, etc. However, equivalent areas in Houston, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Miami, and Atlanta are all higher than LA. Even if you omitted Long Beach from this calculation, the homicide rate calculation would only go down 0.15 per 100K and there would still be more homicides out of the city limits versus in the city limits.
I'll have a post on this in a bit..
P.S. While Long Beach is a sizable city, Compton is still a small city at under 100,000 people. There are numerous MSAs with cities of this size within them.
Well there's literally over 100 + cities outside of Los Angeles city proper so im sure all those cities combined will produce more murders.
But based on statistics, South L.A is still the murder capital of the county
I'm prettt sure there are way worse neighborhoods in Newark and New Orleans, for instance
And also North St.Louis, i bet its triple that of South LA but im just guessing.
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