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Originally Posted by noid_1985
Fair enough, let me ask you....what’s the deal with all of the garbage on the streets in north Philly? Are the garbage trucks privatize and not owned by the city?
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I'd say most voting is on gangland crime infamous with Chicago over aesthetics of blocks or homes or cleanliness or lack of any. Also a East Coast city vs a Midwest one. Long running thread also.
Current Philly street conditions overall but far worst in areas seen more as hoods is nothing new. Over a decade ago the city stopped regular street-sweeper and cleanings and basically just seasonal aspects without a fleet of trucks anymore in cost cutting and constant unhappiness of tight row neighborhood residents, claiming no place to move their vehicles too. That was a key to the end also.
** This year in trash pick-up delays. Did not create the conditions on streets where street-sweepers are rare since 2009.
2019 link - Will Philly Ever Get Its Act Together on Street Sweeping?
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/...eping-program/
from link.
- street-sweeping pilot program, which launched in April 2019 and covered six particularly litter-plagued neighborhoods. The pilot was part of Mayor Kenney’s campaign promise to bring back residential street sweeping, which had been a casualty of 2009’s budget cuts and also Philadelphian's bellyaching about moving their cars for weekly sweepers.
- While the city mulls the long-term feasibility of the blowers, why so many extremely exhausting years of sturm und drang when countless other crowded cities -- New York! Chicago! Boston! Baltimore! -- rely on mechanical sweepers to clean their streets, with their citizens dutifully moving their cars to accommodate them? What is it about us that makes this so hard?
*** consider Boston, whose auto intensity and narrow streets mirror Philadelphia’s. There, residents have weathered sweeping-related parking restrictions without violent revolution for some 30 years now.
Last years new program on the South Side Philly of leaf-blowers blowing under cars seems rediculous, though after dust and mess it did leave streets cleaner. The pilot actually used a mixture of mechanical sweepers, as well as laborers who will blow trash into the street, from the curb under cars where the sweepers will then pick it up, so folks don’t have to move their cars.
Center City does have regular cleaning by businesses paid private firms with mostly small cleaners able to do narrow blocks and onto sidewalks and better neighborhoods seem to keep their streets cleaner at least.
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/str...-20190503.html
Last year city finally bought new street-sweeper trucks. Big 9-ft wide jobs that then did not fit down most streets and probably any alleys where they had them. Kind of a boondoggle it seems like someone had no common-sense?
$2.73 million later, Philly realizes street sweepers are too wide for city’s narrow blocks.
https://whyy.org/articles/2-73-milli...narrow-blocks/
The city currently schedules portions of 33 major streets for overnight sweeping and eight additional routes for early morning cleaning. These a.m. routes feature parking restrictions that people are to move their cars.
Reporting showed that the city was hitting its morning routes just 25 percent of the time, even though many neighboring residents are still ticketed by the Philadelphia Parking Authority nearly every week.
https://whyy.org/articles/philly-str...arking-issues/
The other issues is Philly already had trash pick-up problems and the Pandemic made it worst with sick workers and major delays the cause then trash bag pick-ups to continually get behind.
***Luckily none of this makes National News. NYC is notorious for trash bags on streets and stench of leaking bags etc. So Philly apparently got some out from being called on it Nationally.
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Chicago gets more hype for gang on gang killings and this years uptick, even with better not cut street-cleaning services. It seems to have less delays in trash pick-up where the cities full alley system helps in easy storage in city furnished lidded bins though the alleys and Garbage trucks that pick-up though there.
Even for this thread. That seems meaningless or level of green-space, or street cleanliness in the residential blocks especially. Chicago's problems are deemed Chronic and worst then other issues while Philadelphia's under is called just old stereotyping and improving with a positive future in over Chicago's South/West side. In some ways a double-standard though shootings and murders are not a small chronic issue. But where the Chicago does shine better, it cannot overcome that scourge that Philly's issues get less hyped at least outside the city.
Chicago has a proactive map of streets that get bi-monthly or more cleanings even in hoods.
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/dept...r_tracker.html
Find out when street sweepers are coming to your neighborhood city portal.
https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/c...g-schedule-map
- Street sweeping normally began on Monday, April 1, in Chicago seasonly. Through mid-November, bright orange temporary parking restrictions will be posted the day before sweeping service is scheduled to begin on any street to ensure curb-to-curb cleaning.
- Some arterial streets have permanently-posted signs that specify a once-per-week period when parking is prohibited for street sweeping.
- Street sweeping requests can be made to city's request line at 3-1-1 or online.
- weather permitting it can go on thru Dec on main streets even.
This year from the Pandemic has been a bit different apparently. But still sweepers are out.
After aldermen push back, some residential street sweeping is back on again
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/3/...ng-city-budget
City has its full-sized Blue trucks and smaller blue trucks in a full fleet that was not decimated. A empty lot clean-up program costing millions with reporting them especially.
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/dept...ollection.html
- Now, the truck crews skip their last dumping and remain longer on their routes. Parked fully loaded at the end of the day, they are then shuttled to their dump sites by specially assigned second-shift drivers. This results in greater productivity from the laborers on each truck.
City link offers
- Report a Missed Garbage Pick-up
- Request Additional Garbage Carts
- Report Garbage Cart Missing or Stolen
*** Vast Majority of Chicagoans have Alleyways lined with the blue and black lidded trash bins that never have to be taken inside ......
alley by
Eric Allix Rogers, on Flickr
alleyway by
David Hwang, on Flickr
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