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New Orleans and Louisville are Southern, Brother Semantics!
New Orleans and Louisivlle are not "quintessentially" southern. Louisville has a very midwestern feel in many parts, and also is very industrial and Catholic. NO is a beast unto its own. They are also historically the largest cities in the SE in the 19th century for the longest periods at least. The two cities are inextricably linked and has been a subject of much research on my part recently. https://louisvilleky.gov/government/...-wharf-history
New Orleans and Louisivlle are not "quintessentially" southern. Louisville has a very midwestern feel in many parts, and also is very industrial and Catholic. NO is a beast unto its own. They are also historically the largest cities in the SE in the 19th century for the longest periods at least. The two cities are inextricably linked and has been a subject of much research on my part recently. https://louisvilleky.gov/government/...-wharf-history
I want to say Memphis because other than Richmond there were not a ton of Southern cities that had a history of heavy industry, while Memphis's more commercial past fits the South better.
Lol...well "quintessentially" is the key word here and I just highlighted two cities that are outliers in certain respects although they are certainly Southern cities.
Lol at Brother Semantics. I'm gonna wear that out, that fits you perfectly, brother man...
quin·tes·sen·tial·ly
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adverb
used to emphasize the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.
In that case, by the above definition, Richmond and several more of these cities also aren't quintessentially southern...
None of this matters lol...the South is enormous and each of these places have their own unique contribution to southern culture...
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Memphis should be winning this poll in my opinion. It's a centrally located cotton and blues town located on the Delta just outside of Mississippi itself. It really doesn't get more southern than that.
Birmingham is technically located further south, but it was an industrial city from the very start and its history doesn't even go past the Reconstruction Era. I can't say I see what advantage it has here aside from its smaller size. Pine trees?
Memphis should be winning this poll in my opinion. It's a centrally located cotton and blues town located on the Delta just outside of Mississippi itself. It really doesn't get more southern than that.
Birmingham is technically located further south, but it was an industrial city from the very start and its history doesn't even go past the Reconstruction Era. I can't say I see what advantage it has here aside from its smaller size. Pine trees?
I'm pretty sure the demographics, history, and culture of Birmingham play a role here.
I'm pretty sure the demographics, history, and culture of Birmingham play a role here.
I'll also add, in a way, I think the music and tourism industries have given Memphis a more cosmopolitan feel than the typical southern city, which is why I also selected Birmingham over it.
I'll also add, in a way, I think the music and tourism industries have given Memphis a more cosmopolitan feel than the typical southern city, which is why I also selected Birmingham over it.
I can definitely see that, but I guess I'm simply most familiar with the Memphis that exists outside of Beale Street. In fact, the touristy aspects of the city are a complete afterthought for me.
Any other less than southern qualities that Memphis has can probably be attributed to its larger size. I think Birmingham being one of the smallest cities on the poll is influencing its perceived southernness.
New Orleans and Louisivlle are not "quintessentially" southern. Louisville has a very midwestern feel in many parts, and also is very industrial and Catholic. NO is a beast unto its own. They are also historically the largest cities in the SE in the 19th century for the longest periods at least. The two cities are inextricably linked and has been a subject of much research on my part recently. https://louisvilleky.gov/government/...-wharf-history
New Orleans not 'quintessentially Southern'? Remove the tourist factor and it doesn't get more Southern. No cities in the South adhere more tenaciously to their Southern traditions than NOLA with the possible exceptions of Charleston, Richmond and Savannah.
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