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View Poll Results: Miami vs Philadelphia
Miami 69 43.13%
Philadelphia 91 56.88%
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: NC But Soon, The Desert
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Both are in states I wouldn't care to live in, but I'd much rather live in Miami for even one month, over Philadelphia. Those big Northeast cities are on a downward spiral, IMO. Miami, even with its crime and oppressive heat, is more enticing to the next generation from all I've read. Philly is old hat, lol.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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Both are in states I wouldn't care to live in, but I'd much rather live in Miami for even one month, over Philadelphia. Those big Northeast cities are on a downward spiral, IMO. Miami, even with its crime and oppressive heat, is more enticing to the next generation from all I've read. Philly is old hat, lol.
How exactly are the big Northeastern cities on a downward spiral?
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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How exactly are the big Northeastern cities on a downward spiral?
I'm questioning this too... Last I checked, NYC is going through quite a major economic surge, as are Philly and Boston.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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This is kind of obvious, Philly. One city needs all the cards to play correctly to keep its current momentum and avoid disaster while the other would need all the cards to go the wrong way to start going downhill. Once Miami becomes uninsurable, it's done...

Miami's the worst big city in the US, but apparently the Instagram people vote otherwise with their tourist dollars, people who's primary hobbies include sitting around and drinking on a sandbar and "clubbing"... It's got a crime problem, large swaths of ghetto, very pricey, horrible traffic, culture of people who are terrible with money and can't delay gratification and do tons of cocaine, the everglades are in trouble, and by 2100 the city is underwater.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Both are in states I wouldn't care to live in, but I'd much rather live in Miami for even one month, over Philadelphia. Those big Northeast cities are on a downward spiral, IMO. Miami, even with its crime and oppressive heat, is more enticing to the next generation from all I've read. Philly is old hat, lol.
Where are you getting this from?
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Both are in states I wouldn't care to live in, but I'd much rather live in Miami for even one month, over Philadelphia. Those big Northeast cities are on a downward spiral, IMO. Miami, even with its crime and oppressive heat, is more enticing to the next generation from all I've read. Philly is old hat, lol.
The Northeast Corridor is one of the few consistently prosperous regions in the US and continues to be a massive driver of economic activity and growth. Obviously the largest, by far.

In fact, it's the exact opposite of a "downward spiral" and arguably the best prepared segment of the country for the future. But that's a whole other thread.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Boston and DC have seriously expanded their economy and drastically increased their populations.

New York has kept up with the pace of the economy.

Philadelphia is on the brink of a renaissance as seen in Boston and DC.

Tell me, how is the Northeast on a downward spiral? Its not 2006 when companies fled to Dallas and Atlanta faster than you could blink.


Also, theres one thing the Northeast corridor has that other cities dont on the scale of the Northeast. Thats the plethora and density of highly regarded universities.

Maine: Bates, Colby, Bowdoin
Vermont: Middlebury, UVM
New Hampshire: Dartmouth (Ivy)
Greater Boston/Providence: Harvard (Ivy), MIT (Ivy+), Brown (Ivy), Tufts, BUniversity, BCollege, Northeastern, Berklee, Emerson, Brandeis, Bentley, Babson, Mass College of Pharm, Simmons, College of the Holy Cross, Wellesley, URI, Providence, Bryant, RI School of Design
College Belt (MA/CT): Amherst College, Williams, UMass Amherst, UConn, Smith College, Trinity, Weselyan
Coastal Connecticut: Yale (Ivy), Quinnipiac
Greater New York: Columbia (Ivy), NYU, Fordham, Pratt Institute, Rutgers New Brunswick, Barnard, Baruch, City College, NJIT, Stevens Institute, Queens, FIT, Vassar
Greater Philadelphia: Princeton (Ivy), UPenn (Ivy), Drexel, Temple, Swarthmore, Villanova, Bryn Mawr
Greater Baltimore: John Hopkins, Loyola
Greater Washington: Georgetown, George Washington, George Mason, American U, Howard
Upstate NY: Cornell (Ivy), SU, Colgate, Ithaca, Binghamton, URI, RIT, Union
Pennsylvania: UPittsburgh, Penn State

These universities will forever funnel in brains, power, and growth to the areas listed above. The cities/regions may fall, but they will always have the resources of these fine establishments behind them.

Now that I think about it, all major NE Corridor cities can withstand an economic downturn and are very well prepared with all of their specializations:
Boston: Biotechnology, Pharma, Life Science, and AI Industries.
New York: Finance and Economic Industries.
Philadelphia: Finance and whatever the 2020s bring to Philadelphia. Philadelphia will only prosper, it has the bones, the skyline, the density and the brainpower.
DC: Government and Political Associations, National Security, Technology


However back on topic.. whether it is 2021, or 2024, or even 2028... Philadelphia will grow and prosper. It has everything. Close to beaches, mountains, NY/DC/Boston, has major international flights with upcoming flights to Africa, a great rail system, a well-positioned downtown, educated workforce and a ton of other things. There are scores of companies based in Philadelphia too. The weather isnt that bad either, and variates... the winters arent as bad as NY/Boston, and the summers arent as brutal as DC. Philadelphia is a win-win for success. I cant see it NOT grow. Maybe I am over exaggerating, but seriously, Philly really can only go up with all this potential to be better than it is, and its great as it is right now to start. I look forward to seeing what happens to Philly in the 2020s. In 2035, I want to be having the discussion on how great Philly got in the 2020s and how much growth the city has seen.

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Old 12-19-2019, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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That’s fine if you prefer Philadelphia but I think your opinion of Miami is a little off and/or reflective of someone who consumed a few too many holiday edibles at one of their local Denver cannabis lounges before posting.


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This is kind of obvious, Philly. One city needs all the cards to play correctly to keep its current momentum and avoid disaster while the other would need all the cards to go the wrong way to start going downhill. Once Miami becomes uninsurable, it's done...

Miami's the worst big city in the US, but apparently the Instagram people vote otherwise with their tourist dollars, people who's primary hobbies include sitting around and drinking on a sandbar and "clubbing"... It's got a crime problem, large swaths of ghetto, very pricey, horrible traffic, culture of people who are terrible with money and can't delay gratification and do tons of cocaine, the everglades are in trouble, and by 2100 the city is underwater.

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Old 12-19-2019, 02:51 AM
 
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This is kind of obvious, Philly. One city needs all the cards to play correctly to keep its current momentum and avoid disaster while the other would need all the cards to go the wrong way to start going downhill. Once Miami becomes uninsurable, it's done...

Miami's the worst big city in the US, but apparently the Instagram people vote otherwise with their tourist dollars, people who's primary hobbies include sitting around and drinking on a sandbar and "clubbing"... It's got a crime problem, large swaths of ghetto, very pricey, horrible traffic, culture of people who are terrible with money and can't delay gratification and do tons of cocaine, the everglades are in trouble, and by 2100 the city is underwater.
Clown post. Barnum And Bailey's kinda post.
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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This is kind of obvious, Philly. One city needs all the cards to play correctly to keep its current momentum and avoid disaster while the other would need all the cards to go the wrong way to start going downhill. Once Miami becomes uninsurable, it's done...

Miami's the worst big city in the US, but apparently the Instagram people vote otherwise with their tourist dollars, people who's primary hobbies include sitting around and drinking on a sandbar and "clubbing"... It's got a crime problem, large swaths of ghetto, very pricey, horrible traffic, culture of people who are terrible with money and can't delay gratification and do tons of cocaine, the everglades are in trouble, and by 2100 the city is underwater.
Miami's rate of violent crime isn't that much higher than Denver's.

St. Louis - 66.07
Baltimore - 55.57
Detroit - 39.80
Chicago - 24.13
Philadelphia - 20.06
Pittsburgh - 17.98
Washington - 16.72
Atlanta - 16.41
Nashville - 16.30
Louisville - 15.93
Savannah - 14.41
Des Moines - 12.89
Houston - 11.50
Miami - 11.23
Minneapolis - 10.02
Durham - 8.55
Boston - 8.35
Denver - 8.35
Los Angeles - 7.01
Madison - 4.30
Seattle - 3.74
New York - 3.39
Honolulu - 3.23
Austin - 2.57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_crime_rate

Honestly, I don't know how you can live in Denver. Seems like you'd want to live some place safer like New York or Los Angeles.
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