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As expected, a slew of copy and paste "lol Boston not even close" comments with little to no articulation beyond that.
As someone who doesn't care about Vegas, doesn't go to Vegas, and doesn't understand why Vegas is a tourist destination among southern Californians, I voted for Las Vegas in this poll.
Las Vegas beats Boston badly in international tourist arrivals. They appear to be closer to NYC than Boston in this regard.
17 of the largest 20 hotels in the United States are located in Las Vegas.
If Boston is so unquestionably cosmopolitain, why is every representation of it in popular culture centered around "neighborhood guy shenanigans" and how little things change back on the ole' block?
If you poll people from major cities around the world, Las Vegas is much more likely to be on their radar as a place they might visit and know something about.
As expected, a slew of copy and paste "lol Boston not even close" comments with little to no articulation beyond that.
As someone who doesn't care about Vegas, doesn't go to Vegas, and doesn't understand why Vegas is a tourist destination among southern Californians, I voted for Las Vegas in this poll.
Las Vegas beats Boston badly in international tourist arrivals. They appear to be closer to NYC than Boston in this regard.
17 of the largest 20 hotels in the United States are located in Las Vegas.
If Boston is so unquestionably cosmopolitain, why is every representation of it in popular culture centered around "neighborhood guy shenanigans" and how little things change back on the ole' block?
If you poll people from major cities around the world, Las Vegas is much more likely to be on their radar as a place they might visit and know something about.
Because it sells. And people think it’s funny. But probably hasn’t been characteristic of Boston since the 1980s. 30% of the city is foreign born and probably another 20% came in the past 5-10 years. It changes a lot all the time. It’s in the biggest redevelopment/building phase in the northeastern US.
74 languages are spoken in the public schools and its home to one of America’s top 10 most diverse zip codes. If your from the west coast and you don’t know Boston..then you just don’t know Boston.l and everything you say is gonna be very off.
Las Vegas beats Boston badly in international tourist arrivals. They appear to be closer to NYC than Boston in this regard.
Yes, this is very much the bread and butter for all pro-Vegas arguments here. Disney World also gets a lot of international tourists. Does that make it cosmopolitan?
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If Boston is so unquestionably cosmopolitain, why is every representation of it in popular culture centered around "neighborhood guy shenanigans" and how little things change back on the ole' block?
Because Hollywood depictions of Boston largely never moved past 1990. It’s something I’ve heard locals complain about often.
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If you poll people from major cities around the world, Las Vegas is much more likely to be on their radar as a place they might visit and know something about.
Yes, this is very much the bread and butter for all pro-Vegas arguments here. Disney World also gets a lot of international tourists. Does that make it cosmopolitan?
Because Hollywood depictions of Boston largely never moved past 1990. It’s something I’ve heard locals complain about often.
As, yes. No one has ever heard of Harvard.
A gritty white metropolis is really appealing to the average middle American white person. Makes for nostalgia and makes it easy for them to see themselves as urbane or as underdogs. It doesn’t matter that it’s not a reality in Boston anymore so long as Hollywood can sell tickets off it and Hyundai can sell cars. It’s marketable to middle/white America and to change that would make Boston lose some of its “brand” or uniqueness in the minds of many. Then Boston boosters/actors and Hollywood excel would have to find other ways to be unique and attractive to the masses and compete with other cities. Will be interesting to see how long they can keep the lie alive though .
Yes, this is very much the bread and butter for all pro-Vegas arguments here. Disney World also gets a lot of international tourists. Does that make it cosmopolitan?
Because Hollywood depictions of Boston largely never moved past 1990. It’s something I’ve heard locals complain about often.
As, yes. No one has ever heard of Harvard.
Where is Harvard again? Did they move it into Boston?
How many missions did James Bond go on in Boston?
Both Bourne and Bond were sent to Las Vegas.
It's easy to see whats going on in this thread. People are changing the definition of "cosmopolitain" to help Boston.
cos·mo·pol·i·tan
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adjective
1.
including or containing people from many different countries.
"immigration transformed the city into a cosmopolitan metropolis"
Against that definition I would think LV will do very well. For instance LV has a much larger Hispanic population and a similar white non Hispanic population.
As expected, a slew of copy and paste "lol Boston not even close" comments with little to no articulation beyond that.
As someone who doesn't care about Vegas, doesn't go to Vegas, and doesn't understand why Vegas is a tourist destination among southern Californians, I voted for Las Vegas in this poll.
Las Vegas beats Boston badly in international tourist arrivals. They appear to be closer to NYC than Boston in this regard.
17 of the largest 20 hotels in the United States are located in Las Vegas.
If Boston is so unquestionably cosmopolitain, why is every representation of it in popular culture centered around "neighborhood guy shenanigans" and how little things change back on the ole' block?
If you poll people from major cities around the world, Las Vegas is much more likely to be on their radar as a place they might visit and know something about.
Uhm What? lol.
Boston has the the 5th most diverse food scene in the US, 13th in the world with 57 represented nationalities and plates in 2018. There are more than 61 today, surely placing it at 12 in the world alone. https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...ound-the-world
Its one of the densest cities in the country, and of large cities, ranks #3 after NYC and San Francisco. There is more than 15,000 people per square mile in Boston as of 2019 estimates. And yeah, that area also includes 8 square miles for Logan Airport. Take out that and you have 18,000 ppsqm. It also leaves out the cities of Cambridge MA, Somerville MA and Chelsea MA which are all en route to surpassing 20k people per square mile very soon. Somerville might have eclipsed that this year. Well find out. This means an agglomeration of cultures and proximity to many ethnic foods and neighborhoods.
Boston has 2 zip codes in the 20 most diverse zipcodes in the country.
Boston area has 6 Top 50 universities including Harvard (1), MIT (3), Tufts (25), BU (35), BC (38), Northeastern (44) and many others in the area that are respectable including Brandeis, Bentley, Babson, UMass Boston, Berklee, Simmons, Wentworth, Leslee, Suffolk University, Emerson, etc...
Boston leads in NIH funding which has lead to over 10 Billion dollars of life science investment since 2010, making it the top regional cluster, and only cluster on the East Coast. This drives in hundreds of thousands of international arrivals for Business every year.
Boston's tourism is also up considerably since 2010 due to a more than doubling in international tourists.
Unlike Vegas, Boston's Logan Airport sees about 9 million international passengers from many different countries with more than 10 flights a day this summer to London, and 5 to Paris. There are also flights to Tel Aviv, Dubai, Doha, Praia, Sao Paulo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul, Panama City, Casablanca, etc.. for routes outside Europe. Both Delta and jetBlue use Boston has a hub, while Oneworld Alliance is drastically expanding the business routes from KBOS. Yes Vegas sees more traffic, but nearly as much business.
Boston also has a world-class Financial District, unlike Vegas. And with the help of its train system has a phenomenal highly ranked Transit network with more than 9 lines. (Blue, Orange, Red, Silver, GreenB/C/D/E, etc). It gives it much more of a city feel.
Boston area is also home to various headquarters including General Electric, State Street Financial, Liberty Mitual, ThermoScientific, Ropes and Grey, Wayfair Co, Reebok, Dunkin Donuts, Pumas NA HQ, New Balance, New England BioLabs, Akamai Technologies, Sanofi Genzyme, Raytheon, Alexion Pharma, TJX, Analog Devices, Boston Scientific, Vertex, and of course Fidelity Investments. Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon and many other tech companies have a huge presence in Boston driving up an international business, capital investment and visits to the city. This trumps Vegas.
Capital Investment in Boston is 3rd in the nation, just after NYC and San Francisco as well. There are also many many projects under construction that are enriching its core.. that is moving it up a tier. This draws international migration and domestic flow to where the jobs are and makes the cities more attractive for foreign arrivals.
Cosmopolitan? Boston.
I live in Boston. I went to school in Boston (Primary/Secondary-ish) and now I work there. There is a huge presence of the historical waves of British/Irish/Polish/Italian/Jewish migration from the 1700s-1930s. Following that another wave of Jewish/Lebanese/Italian/Portuguese/Azorean migration in the 1930s-1970s, and then now an even bigger migration of Puerto Rican/Dominican/Cape Verdean/Haitian/Jamaican/Sub Saharan African/Chinese/Salvadoran/Indian, etc. There are ethnic neighborhoods including Nubian Square (African American), North End (Italian), Codman Square (Vietnamese), Chinatown (The one in Boston), etc forming still to this day.
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Where is Harvard again? Did they move it into Boston?
I hope this is a joke...and btw both the Harvard Medical School and the School of Public Health are within Boston city limits.
I think that thanks to its schools Boston has a lot of new immigrants (of different origins) that keep coming and going, this alone makes it much more cosmopolitan than cities with mostly second/third generation immigrants (no matter their race). Tourists don't make a city cosmopolitan, if that was the case Venice and Cancun would be incredibly cosmopolitan (they are not).
I hope this is a joke...and btw both the Harvard Medical School and the School of Public Health are within Boston city limits.
I was just about to say this, but your post is far nicer and less snarky than mine would’ve been.
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